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Old 11-07-2013, 07:13 AM
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Is this suicide? Is suicide sin? Is this sin?

This Indiana hunter's life is tragically cut short, but under a very unique set of circumstances. What do you guys think about this situation?

http://news.yahoo.com/injured-indian...181336165.html
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:51 AM
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Such a sad and tragic story.

I don't believe this was suicide or sin. His body was on life support. He was unable to live without the assistance of machines. IMO, this is no different than a person with terminal cancer choosing not to receive any medical treatment.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:56 AM
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Such a sad and tragic story.

I don't believe this was suicide or sin. His body was on life support. He was unable to live without the assistance of machines. IMO, this is no different than a person with terminal cancer choosing not to receive any medical treatment.
You know brother, I thought it was a very sad story too. But isn't it interesting? The situation, the family and doctor's decisions-- I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read the article.

Still, I don't see MUCH of a difference between this and the services Dr. Kevorkian provided his patients.

For me, the emphasis is on MUCH.

There is one technicality involved-- but is right and wrong determined on technicalities?

I just think the details to this story is very fascinating, when you think about it.
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You know brother, I thought it was a very sad story too. But isn't it interesting? The situation, the doctor's decisions-- I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read the article.

Still, I don't see MUCH of a difference between this and the services Dr. Kevorkian provided his patients.

For me, the emphasis is on MUCH.

There is one technicality involved-- but is right and wrong determined on technicalities?
I see the difference as this: no one ended this man's life. Unlike where Dr. Kevorkian gives drugs which cause the death to occur, this man simply had a ventilator removed.

This man died naturally.

There was no human intervention or drugs given to expedite an early death. That's the difference, which, IMO, is a big issue.
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I see the difference as this: no one ended this man's life. Unlike where Dr. Kevorkian gives drugs which cause the death to occur, this man simply had a ventilator removed.

This man died naturally.

There was no human intervention or drugs given to expedite an early death. That's the difference, which, IMO, is a big issue.
Not so big of a difference in that the decisions for death are being made by the dying. Definite decisions and actions on the part of the dying that leads to death in both situations.
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I am thinking that my opinion that Dr. K. should never have been prosecuted would be the minority around these parts.
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Medical science isn't sacred. Frankly, I think people are living longer than intended as a result of respirators, treatments, and some forms of medication. In a sense, this is playing God... not allowing one to die naturally. Of course, the choice to undergo such procedures and or treatments should be entirely up to the individual.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:36 AM
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Refusing medical treatment is not the same as taking drug to kill yourself.
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Not so big of a difference in that the decisions for death are being made by the dying. Definite decisions and actions on the part of the dying that leads to death in both situations.
I disagree, because the people dying weren't allowed to die naturally. They were given medication which killed them. This man died a natural death. He wasn't given any medication, nor did any Dr do anything to cause his life to end prematurely.

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I am thinking that my opinion that Dr. K. should never have been prosecuted would be the minority around these parts.
I would agree that opinion is likely in the minority. A Dr should never knowingly give medication to kill someone, even if the person wants to die.

The Hippocratic Oath they take forbids it:

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I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
We see how legalized abortion has created the pathway for legalized euthanasia; and soon may even allow for infanticide.
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50 years ago there wouldn't have even been a question, the man would have probably died within a few hours. But doctors and medicine have "advanced" to where they can now "save a person's life". A quality of life so despicable that no one in their right mind would choose it.
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