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I feel like this is a double standard. What say ye
I was talking with a friend last night who goes to an independent Apostolic Church. We had two conversations that left me baffled....
In the first one, she was telling me that the church she attends has been paying rent for the use of a Lutheran Church on Sunday afternoons and one evening during the week. It has been a good situation for both congregations since neither are very large. It gives the Lutheran group an income. And it gives the Apostolic folks a place to worship.
But they just learned this week that the Lutherans now have a new pastor - a woman! and she is gay! Now mind you, this gay lady is not going to be pastoring the APOSTOLIC folks, just her own congregation of Lutheran people. But as soon as the Apostolic church found out about it, they are now moving out as of this week! No way they will worship in a building where a gay woman pastors a congregation earlier in the day.
My answer to her was that as long as they weren't asking her to pastor THEIR congregation, what did they care? Isn't what they are doing just a little bit extreme??
So then the conversation turned directions and someone started talking about snake-handling Pentecostal people. One of the ladies shared that she had gone to a snake-handling church for several months while she was in Kentucky taking care of her dying mother. I told her that I had attended that same church - ONE time!! For about 10 minutes - just until I figured out they were snake-handlers! Then I was out the door!! So the lady whose church is moving out because of the gay pastor says to me, "I think we have to be very careful about being judgmental of other Christians. I wouldn't handle snakes, but I can't see that what they are doing is all that bad either!"
Made no sense to me - if it's wrong to judge the snake handlers, then it stands to reason that the way they're handling the gay pastor situation is also wrong. Don't get me wrong -- I DO NOT believe that God approves of the gay pastor. Or of being gay at all. But I have a hard time thinking that He's pleased with snake handlers either!
What do you think? I'm open to your opinions 
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02-19-2013, 03:41 PM
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
I could never condone a gay pastor period. It is an abomination, & there are unclean, nasty spirits associated with that.
As for the snake handlers, while I would not go myself, I have a hard time condeming them outright.
Apples & Oranges IMHO.
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02-19-2013, 03:47 PM
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The difference is that snake handling is not condemned.
It is just really stupid, not to mention pointless.
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02-19-2013, 04:50 PM
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
So they had no problem having services in a trinitarian church. But now it's a problem because the new pastor is gay? It just seems inconsistent.
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02-19-2013, 04:51 PM
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
Maybe they don't want to be mistakenly identified as having a gay pastor?
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02-19-2013, 04:53 PM
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
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So they had no problem having services in a trinitarian church. But now it's a problem because the new pastor is gay? It just seems inconsistent.
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There are unclean spirits associated with a person being gay. They can be delivered if they confess & forsake that sin.
No double standard.
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02-19-2013, 04:55 PM
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
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I could never condone a gay pastor period. It is an abomination, & there are unclean, nasty spirits associated with that.
As for the snake handlers, while I would not go myself, I have a hard time condeming them outright.
Apples & Oranges IMHO.
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Amen.
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
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So they had no problem having services in a trinitarian church. But now it's a problem because the new pastor is gay? It just seems inconsistent.
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For me it's not inconsistent at all.
I view one as an honest, if somewhat misguided perspective of the Godhead. And the other as as an abomination.
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
I wouldn't help fund their church with the rent. It is against the Word of God and is a double standard, IMO, to be a part of what their congregation stands for. We have to take a stand, with love and wisdom, regardless of whose feelings it may hurt.
The church is starting to become politically correct, not a good thing.
The problem is when you preach about Adam and Steve, acting like an unloving smart aleck and not stick with scriptures, like Romans 1.
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Re: I feel like this is a double standard. What sa
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Originally Posted by Margies3
I was talking with a friend last night who goes to an independent Apostolic Church. We had two conversations that left me baffled....
In the first one, she was telling me that the church she attends has been paying rent for the use of a Lutheran Church on Sunday afternoons and one evening during the week. It has been a good situation for both congregations since neither are very large. It gives the Lutheran group an income. And it gives the Apostolic folks a place to worship.
But they just learned this week that the Lutherans now have a new pastor - a woman! and she is gay! Now mind you, this gay lady is not going to be pastoring the APOSTOLIC folks, just her own congregation of Lutheran people. But as soon as the Apostolic church found out about it, they are now moving out as of this week! No way they will worship in a building where a gay woman pastors a congregation earlier in the day.
My answer to her was that as long as they weren't asking her to pastor THEIR congregation, what did they care? Isn't what they are doing just a little bit extreme??
So then the conversation turned directions and someone started talking about snake-handling Pentecostal people. One of the ladies shared that she had gone to a snake-handling church for several months while she was in Kentucky taking care of her dying mother. I told her that I had attended that same church - ONE time!! For about 10 minutes - just until I figured out they were snake-handlers! Then I was out the door!! So the lady whose church is moving out because of the gay pastor says to me, "I think we have to be very careful about being judgmental of other Christians. I wouldn't handle snakes, but I can't see that what they are doing is all that bad either!"
Made no sense to me - if it's wrong to judge the snake handlers, then it stands to reason that the way they're handling the gay pastor situation is also wrong. Don't get me wrong -- I DO NOT believe that God approves of the gay pastor. Or of being gay at all. But I have a hard time thinking that He's pleased with snake handlers either!
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I understand what the woman is thinking....along her thinking lines....
The gay woman pastor is a sinner, a false prophet....the snake handlers are simply misguided.
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