Remission Of Sins Through Baptism

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Exactly my point ... Scripture simply states those who accepted his message were baptized. Nothing more ... nothing less and yet Luke declares them saved that day. If the Apostolic 3- step message is as important as it is today ... I think greater pains should have been taken to clarify ...

I'm basing this on the modus operandi of today.

Daniel,


Let us examine Paul's testimony in Acts 22:6-16, as he traveled to Damascus. Paul testified encountering a glorious light, and then heard a voice utter, "Saul, why persecutest thou me?" Paul then looses his sight and abstains from eating and drinking for three days. There's no doubt Paul prayed and repented of his sins during this fast, but yet more was required of him.


Examine carefully in Acts 22:16, after Paul became blind, fasted, prayed, and received his sight. Ananias said to Paul, "and now why tarriest thou?, arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord"


Ananias asked Paul, why tarriest thou or what prevents you from being baptized?


Daniel, would you baptize a person that had not yet repented of their sins, or would you baptize a person that hadn't concluded he/she was a sinner and needed to change?


In Acts 9:6 Paul acknowledges his faults by asking "Lord, what wilt thou have me do?" Remember Paul was on His way to arrest Christians (Acts 9:1-2) when Jesus appeared unto him.


Why didn't Paul continue on his travel to Damascus to persecute and arrest Christians? Because God convicted Paul on the road to Damascus, and there Paul realized his sins, repented, and submitted to God by saying, "Lord, what wilt thou have me do?"


For this reason Ananias told Paul, "why tarriest thou!" Paul you've repented, what are you waiting for, arise a be baptized. What did Ananias claim baptism would do? Ananias told Paul Baptism would wash away his sins (Acts 22:16)


Greek; Wash Away; apolouo; have remitted


Daniel, here we see the act of repentance didn't provide remission of sins, it was baptism that granted Paul remission of sins.


Without water baptism there is no remission of sins.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Daniel,


Let us examine Paul's testimony in Acts 22:6-16, as he traveled to Damascus. Paul testified encountering a glorious light, and then heard a voice utter, "Saul, why persecutest thou me?" Paul then looses his sight and abstains from eating and drinking for three days. There's no doubt Paul prayed and repented of his sins during this fast, but yet more was required of him.


Examine carefully in Acts 22:16, after Paul became blind, fasted, prayed, and received his sight. Ananias said to Paul, "and now why tarriest thou?, arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord"


Ananias asked Paul, why tarriest thou or what prevents you from being baptized?


Daniel, would you baptize a person that had not yet repented of their sins, or would you baptize a person that hadn't concluded he/she was a sinner and needed to change?


In Acts 9:6 Paul acknowledges his faults by asking "Lord, what wilt thou have me do?" Remember Paul was on His way to arrest Christians (Acts 9:1-2) when Jesus appeared unto him.


Why didn't Paul continue on his travel to Damascus to persecute and arrest Christians? Because God convicted Paul on the road to Damascus, and there Paul realized his sins, repented, and submitted to God by saying, "Lord, what wilt thou have me do?"


For this reason Ananias told Paul, "why tarriest thou!" Paul you've repented, what are you waiting for, arise a be baptized. What did Ananias claim baptism would do? Ananias told Paul Baptism would wash away his sins (Acts 22:16)


Greek; Wash Away; apolouo; have remitted


Daniel, here we see the act of repentance didn't provide remission of sins, it was baptism that granted Paul remission of sins.


Without water baptism there is no remission of sins.

The way I read the scripture, namely Acts 2:38 is that it says to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins. Repenting is only part and baptism is only part. It takes both for remission of sins.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Rico

The way I read the scripture, namely Acts 2:38 is that it says to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins. Repenting is only part and baptism is only part. It takes both for remission of sins.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

Double AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve Epley]

No one in the NT Church age has recieved remission of sins with being baptized n Jesus Name.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No one in the NT Church age has recieved remission of sins with being baptized n Jesus Name.

uh oh, Elder, looks like a typo there,
or
are you looking our way?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No one in the NT Church age has recieved remission of sins with being baptized n Jesus Name.

Brother Epley,
Do you know what scriptures are used by those that believe you receive a "measure of the spirit" at repentance?

I do not espouse that teaching, just wondering.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No one in the NT Church age has recieved remission of sins with being baptized n Jesus Name.

Unless AB somehow corrupted Bro Epley (haha) this must be a typo

[deltaguitar]

If Baptism was so important for remission of sins why were not any of the twelve disciples baptized? Had their sins already been remitted somehow?

Why didn't Jesus baptize anyone?

How did Cornelius receive the Holy Ghost if he was still a degenerate sinner?

Also, we cannot derive our doctrine from a historical narrative (Acts) unless that doctrine is supported by other scripture in the bible. This is a common rule in bible interpretation and reading.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

If Baptism was so important for remission of sins why were not any of the twelve disciples baptized? Had their sins already been remitted somehow?

Why didn't Jesus baptize anyone?

How did Cornelius receive the Holy Ghost if he was still a degenerate sinner?

Also, we cannot derive our doctrine from a historical narrative (Acts) unless that doctrine is supported by other scripture in the bible. This is a common rule in bible interpretation and reading.

First, please show us where the bible says none of the 12 were baptized. In fact if you understand discipleship you would know that they WERE baptized. John baptized HIS disciples and Jesus baptized HIS and then HIS disciples went out and baptized others.

Second, the bible never says Jesus never baptized anyone

How did Cornelius receive the Spirit? Same way King Saul did maybe? BTW Nobody here said to not be baptized makes one a degenerate sinner. A sinner is someone that has not repented.

Prove we can't derive doctrine from a historical book. Even the gospels are historical