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09-19-2007, 01:32 PM
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Sister Alvear
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What is God's dream for His church?
I await your response>>>
Can we fulfill God's dream?
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09-19-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I await your response>>>
Can we fulfill God's dream?
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I see this as 2-fold.
First, we are to be the bride, the Lambs wife. Our desire is to be towards our husband, Jesus. We are to always be wanting intimacy and communion with him.
Second, and this is "birthed" out of the first, we are to produce spiritual offspring. Our lives should be a continual reach to bring others to Christ. Our desire for souls should be a reflection of his desire.
To me, these two are the primary vision God has for his Church. His "dream" is that we abide in his fullness, and produce children.
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09-19-2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph
I see this as 2-fold.
First, we are to be the bride, the Lambs wife. Our desire is to be towards our husband, Jesus. We are to always be wanting intimacy and communion with him.
Second, and this is "birthed" out of the first, we are to produce spiritual offspring. Our lives should be a continual reach to bring others to Christ. Our desire for souls should be a reflection of his desire.
To me, these two are the primary vision God has for his Church. His "dream" is that we abide in his fullness, and produce children.
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This is an awesome answer!
To add to it, we as his bride and as his body are to represent Him to the world. We are Christ's ambassadors and are to be like Him. We bring light and salt to a dark and unsavory world.
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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09-19-2007, 02:20 PM
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Sister Alvear
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He wants us to see things as He does...He talked often about see, look, eyes...
I guess we could say He willed us His eyes...He wants us to have the ability to see as He does.
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09-19-2007, 02:38 PM
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Sister Alvear
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"Two distinguishing marks of the early church were: 1) Poverty and 2) Power." -
T.J. Bach
Most churches have neither...oh a few poor folks and a big noise...but real power like the early church...I have seen very little of it...We are too busy collecting things to have time to pray for power...
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09-19-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
"Two distinguishing marks of the early church were: 1) Poverty and 2) Power." -
T.J. Bach
Most churches have neither...oh a few poor folks and a big noise...but real power like the early church...I have seen very little of it...We are too busy collecting things to have time to pray for power...
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Other distinguishing marks of the early church are Love and Fellowship.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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09-20-2007, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
"Two distinguishing marks of the early church were: 1) Poverty and 2) Power." -
T.J. Bach
Most churches have neither...oh a few poor folks and a big noise...but real power like the early church...I have seen very little of it...We are too busy collecting things to have time to pray for power...
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that's not true...
the early church wasn't that poor, they were just underground, there is a difference...
There is direct evidence that as early as Paul's ministry people who were mayors and very wealthy land-owners were converts...
Look at Philemon... Ananias & Saphiris... you can't sell property if you don't own property and you don't own property if you aren't wealthy in the ancient world...
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09-20-2007, 01:13 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
that's not true...
the early church wasn't that poor, they were just underground, there is a difference...
There is direct evidence that as early as Paul's ministry people who were mayors and very wealthy land-owners were converts...
Look at Philemon... Ananias & Saphiris... you can't sell property if you don't own property and you don't own property if you aren't wealthy in the ancient world...
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You are forgetting the land was given to them.
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09-20-2007, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rico
You are forgetting the land was given to them.
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what??
given to them by who?? what are you talking about???
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09-20-2007, 01:27 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
what??
given to them by who?? what are you talking about???
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The land was given to them by God. What land are you talking about? LOL!! We may be talking past each other. Hehehehehe!
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