Sabbath and bible feasts

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I don't think it's a mistranslation. The term sabbaton was used for "week" since a week is a cycle from one sabbath to another. The question would be "what is this FIRST sabbath"? Without the context of a particular Feast or some other particular enumerated time period, it wouldn't make sense to say "on the first sabbath". However, it would make perfect sense to mean "on the first of the week" (that is, at the beginning of the sabbath-cycle).

Otherwise, we get people claiming Jesus did NOT rise upon the first day of the week, but upon the "first sabbath", which is erroneous.

In addition, it was common practice to have a fellowship meal at the close of the Sabbath, it would begin on the Sabbath in the evening and then continue into the early night, acting as a sort of bridge between the last day of the week and the first day of the week. Jews still practice a similar custom called "havdala" as a means of separating the Sabbath from the next day, and this is related to the origin of "vespers" in Orthodox Christian practice.

In some manuscripts sabbaton is plural.

[Tithesmeister]

Some sabbaths don’t fall on Saturday.

[Tithesmeister]

Some weeks have two sabbaths.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

In some manuscripts sabbaton is plural.

Which ones?

"First of the weeks"? What weeks?

How does the Greek Bible specify the first day of the week?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Some sabbaths don’t fall on Saturday.

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Some weeks have two sabbaths.

The annual Sabbaths are movable feasts, meaning they can fall on any day of the week. The weekly Sabbath is not movable, every seventh day of the week is the weekly Sabbath. And thus, a particular week may have more than one Sabbath (the weekly Sabbath plus one of the annual Sabbaths). I suppose it would even be possible to have a week with three Sabbaths - the tenth day of the seventh month is a Sabbath (Day of Atonement), and the 14th day of the seventh month is also a Sabbath (first day of Tabernacles). So theoretically, those two days could fall in the same week, in which there would also be the weekly Sabbath. So three Sabbaths in one week.

Atonement on Monday, Tabernacles 1 on Thursday, then the weekly Sabbath on Saturday. Or something like that.

[Monterrey]

I have seen that those who get caught up in a physical sabbath usually quit speaking in tongues. Seen it time and time again.

Now they might start off saying that they are going to keep both but when they emphasize the physical sabbath they quit following the spiritual sabbath, the rest or the Holy Ghost.

Just my .02

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

I have seen that those who get caught up in a physical sabbath usually quit speaking in tongues. Seen it time and time again.

Now they might start off saying that they are going to keep both but when they emphasize the physical sabbath they quit following the spiritual sabbath, the rest or the Holy Ghost.

Just my .02

Brother I’m not an observer of the Sabbath. My point in bringing it up was that without the high Sabbath, the timeline of the burial (three days in the earth) does not work. The math is off.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

I have seen that those who get caught up in a physical sabbath usually quit speaking in tongues. Seen it time and time again.

Now they might start off saying that they are going to keep both but when they emphasize the physical sabbath they quit following the spiritual sabbath, the rest or the Holy Ghost.

Just my .02

We've been keeping the Bible Sabbath for something like over 20 years. Haven't stopped speaking in tongues either.

That's my buck fifty.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Brother I’m not an observer of the Sabbath. My point in bringing it up was that without the high Sabbath, the timeline of the burial (three days in the earth) does not work. The math is off.

The timeline of the burial does not mean and cannot actually be a complete literal 3 whole days in the earth. Why? Because He rose "the third day" which if He was buried for 3 24-hour periods He would have risen "the fourth day".

He was crucified on a Friday, in the grave for the Sabbath (which was both a weekly Sabbath and the first Sabbath of Unleavened Bread) and rose the next day (which was the first day of the week and the third day counting from the Crucifixion and which also corresponded to the waving of the sheaf of firstfruits in the Temple).

Wednesday and Thursday crucifixions simply don't fit ALL the data and statements about the timelines.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The timeline of the burial does not mean and cannot actually be a complete literal 3 whole days in the earth. Why? Because He rose "the third day" which if He was buried for 3 24-hour periods He would have risen "the fourth day".

He was crucified on a Friday, in the grave for the Sabbath (which was both a weekly Sabbath and the first Sabbath of Unleavened Bread) and rose the next day (which was the first day of the week and the third day counting from the Crucifixion and which also corresponded to the waving of the sheaf of firstfruits in the Temple).

Wednesday and Thursday crucifixions simply don't fit ALL the data and statements about the timelines.

[40] For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Crucified Thursday. Friday a high Sabbath. In the earth Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night. Resurrection on Sunday. I think this is right. Close anyway. The day starts at sundown? Sunday would be the third day.