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Old 09-13-2024, 12:46 PM
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Re: 3.5 years or 1260 years

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Romans 11. I know you have addressed that before, but for me, the plain reading of the passage tells me clearly Paul is speaking that God is not done with the Israel that it is according to the flesh, because the gift is irrevocable. Paul says that Israel has a small minority that is responding to the Gospel, while the rest has been hardened. As result, the Gentiles are coming in. When the time is come, the nation of Israel according to the flesh will have a greater reception of the Gospel. Obviously, it is a generalization, the same way Paul himself also generalizes in the passage, and not every.single.living.descendant.will.be.saved, but simply that there will be a greater revival among them, powerful enough to influence the Israel as a nation.

I know there is a debate about whether "And so" in 11:26 means "and in this way" or more temporal like "and at the end". Those that believe the replacement theology want to say "and in this way" is the right translation so that "Israel" is really the minority that responded plus the Gentiles. But the context of the passage is about the destiny of the hardened Israel which constitutes the majority, and which Paul has generalized already to "all Israel". Therefore, the best translation here is "at the end," concluding the mystery question what would happen to the Israel as a whole that has been hardened.

I believe that passage in Romans 11 is clear as water that God is not done with Israel as a nation according to the flesh.
God is not done with Israel according to flesh because all flesh need to come to God, and that doesn't discount Israel.

But Ephesians 2 teaches Jew or gentle all belong in the church and need to get in it. There's nothing special for Israel apart from their need to get in the church.
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