Okay... How about this... and NO OFFENSE to anyone, please!
... but CC1 attends the "church in question" here and after his comments I have to ask:
Did this really happen?
CC1? Pianoman? Anyone?
You gotta catch up with the times Pelanthesaurus! I have not attended CC for about two years now. Going to a local church because of health issues with my wife making the trip to CC too hard. That is why I told Steinway to call me - I am out of the loop on CC and what he posted was news to me and I wanted details!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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Sorry you are disappointed. They shouldn't bait and switch on you especially after you supported them for so long. Does the senior pastor know about this?
Other than that, I agree with Timmy.
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Sorry you are disappointed. They shouldn't bait and switch on you especially after you supported them for so long. Does the senior pastor know about this?
Other than that, I agree with Timmy.
That is the issue with me. Our church had an identity and doctrine that I was comfortable with. If I were more comfortable in an Anglican or Catholic church, I would be attending those churches instead of where I am.
Both organizations are bringing people to Jesus Christ, but they're not my flavor! I am more comfortable when people are receiving the Holy Ghost and being baptized in "Jesus name". THAT is like 'chocolate" flavoring to me! Leave off the anchovies!!
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That is the issue with me. Our church had an identity and doctrine that I was comfortable with. If I were more comfortable in an Anglican or Catholic church, I would be attending those churches instead of where I am.
Both organizations are bringing people to Jesus Christ, but they're not my flavor! I am more comfortable when people are receiving the Holy Ghost and being baptized in "Jesus name". THAT is like 'chocolate" flavoring to me! Leave off the anchovies!!
I think you should have a discussion with the pastor to find out if he knows about this.
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It would be interesting to see what the leadership says to explain this.
Baptizing in the titles is not an abnormal thing for the non-oneness world, but the sign of the cross makes it really weird.
I would think that it wouldn't matter if they were baptizing in the name of Stephen Hawkings as long as the baptized were calling on The Name -but the sign of the cross is a bit weird.
The sign of the cross doesn't bother me. I don't see anything wrong with it. My daughter went to preschool at a Catholic school and she learned that they did this after prayer. It is kind of like saying amen in my view.
I now go to a church that baptizes in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and truthly it doesn't bother me either. Of course, I already had left Oneness doctrine before I started going to that church so it didn't bother me.
Also, there are a few things to think about here. Was it a pastor of the church who was instructing the baptisms? Could it be that baptism in Jesus name only is not taught anymore and maybe students were baptizing each other and used the only phrase they knew?
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