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09-27-2011, 10:20 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
By the way I consider Steinway a friend. He and CC1 we have broken bread together they are super nice guys. Steinway's Dad was a One God-Jesus Name preacher. I for one have been praying for them and would like to see them return home. When churches make their exdous they generally go farther than they could ever imagine. Time to cut your losses and leave.
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09-27-2011, 10:34 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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By the way I consider Steinway a friend. He and CC1 we have broken bread together they are super nice guys. Steinway's Dad was a One God-Jesus Name preacher. I for one have been praying for them and would like to see them return home. When churches make their exdous they generally go farther than they could ever imagine. Time to cut your losses and leave.
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You make a very valid point. It is one that I heard and feared for many years.
I agree that once we start leaving we usually go way further than we ever thought. If I had known where I would be today I would have never taken the first step away from the apostolic message. God had to lead me one step at a time.
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09-27-2011, 10:38 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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You make a very valid point. It is one that I heard and feared for many years.
I agree that once we start leaving we usually go way further than we ever thought. If I had known where I would be today I would have never taken the first step away from the apostolic message. God had to lead me one step at a time.
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Old friend I also pray for your return.
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09-28-2011, 08:47 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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You make a very valid point. It is one that I heard and feared for many years.
I agree that once we start leaving we usually go way further than we ever thought. If I had known where I would be today I would have never taken the first step away from the apostolic message. God had to lead me one step at a time.
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Same here, but I'm pretty happy right where I am at! I can't say I was ever truly happy in the UPC.
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09-26-2011, 11:20 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
Dear Perplexed in Nashville (otherwise known as Mr. Steinway), Give me a call tomorrow! Sounds like we have a lot to discuss. LOL!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-27-2011, 08:48 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Dear Perplexed in Nashville (otherwise known as Mr. Steinway), Give me a call tomorrow! Sounds like we have a lot to discuss. LOL!!!
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Update us all as well. please?
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09-27-2011, 09:14 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Dear Perplexed in Nashville (otherwise known as Mr. Steinway), Give me a call tomorrow! Sounds like we have a lot to discuss. LOL!!!
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He's busy taping the next season of NCIS.
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09-27-2011, 09:37 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
I guess I'm not convinced that we don't need to be baptized in Jesus name and be filled with the HG speaking in tongues.
Even if we say we are justified at repentence through faith in the blood of Jesus
Even if we say that Baptism is not for, but because of the remission of sin
doesn't our faith result in obedience? isn't faith w/o works dead being alone. When Abraham was justified by faith, he was given the seal of circumcision. Afterwards the people of Israel who were not circumcised were cut off.
Once we repent, don't we then continue to obey?
Also, I don't believe I had the Holy Ghost till I spoke with tongues.
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09-27-2011, 10:15 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I guess I'm not convinced that we don't need to be baptized in Jesus name and be filled with the HG speaking in tongues.
Even if we say we are justified at repentence through faith in the blood of Jesus
Even if we say that Baptism is not for, but because of the remission of sin
doesn't our faith result in obedience? isn't faith w/o works dead being alone. When Abraham was justified by faith, he was given the seal of circumcision. Afterwards the people of Israel who were not circumcised were cut off.
Once we repent, don't we then continue to obey?
Also, I don't believe I had the Holy Ghost till I spoke with tongues.
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This was one of the hardest things to let go for me. I believe in justification by faith long before I left the UPC but my true healing didn't begin until I gave up the "initial evidence doctrine".
I still remember the night I woke up and sat straight up in bed and realized that I had never spoke in tongues myself yet I was trying to make this doctrine for everybody. It was like God spoke to me and said, "you really never did it either did you?"
Funny how a doctrine that I loved and cherished so much was one that I had never truly experienced.
I do believe I have the Holy Spirit and I rest in that knowledge. I no longer seek and search after something that wasn't meant for me.
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09-27-2011, 03:47 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I guess I'm not convinced that we don't need to be baptized in Jesus name and be filled with the HG speaking in tongues.
Even if we say we are justified at repentence through faith in the blood of Jesus
Even if we say that Baptism is not for, but because of the remission of sin
doesn't our faith result in obedience? isn't faith w/o works dead being alone. When Abraham was justified by faith, he was given the seal of circumcision. Afterwards the people of Israel who were not circumcised were cut off.
Once we repent, don't we then continue to obey?
Also, I don't believe I had the Holy Ghost till I spoke with tongues.
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I believe in reptence AND water baptism for remission of sins.
I also believe that receiving the Holy Ghost is an essential aspect of the new birth. I hope that I have made that clear in any previous posts.
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