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09-27-2011, 09:40 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
I was raised catholic, I received my first holy communion, and then when I was older I went to a confirmation, was maybe 9 yrs old, we kissed some guys ring and were told we had the Holy Ghost.
I don't think so.
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09-27-2011, 09:43 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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I guess I'm not convinced that we don't need to be baptized in Jesus name and be filled with the HG speaking in tongues.
Even if we say we are justified at repentence through faith in the blood of Jesus
Even if we say that Baptism is not for, but because of the remission of sin
doesn't our faith result in obedience? isn't faith w/o works dead being alone. When Abraham was justified by faith, he was given the seal of circumcision. Afterwards the people of Israel who were not circumcised were cut off.
Once we repent, don't we then continue to obey?
Also, I don't believe I had the Holy Ghost till I spoke with tongues.
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Don't let anyone change what you believe, Amanah!
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I was raised catholic, I received my first holy communion, and then when I was older I went to a confirmation, was maybe 9 yrs old, we kissed some guys ring and were told we had the Holy Ghost.
I don't think so.
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09-27-2011, 09:43 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
One day I walked into a small humble church that was meeting in the Eau Gallie Women's club. People would meet before church service down on their face in intercessory pray, seeking the face of God that God would meet with us. We didn't have a fancy choir, we had a few guitars, and some singing. When you walked into the building you were shaken with the presence and power and annointing of the Holy Ghost. You could feel the atmosphere of prayer. It broke you when you walked in the door.
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All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. ~Tolkien
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09-27-2011, 09:52 AM
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Saved & Shaved
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Re: Perplexed!
I need to find a gal to kiss my ring.
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09-27-2011, 10:11 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway
I attend a large ex-UPC church. I found out this week that during our Youth Camp this past summer, our youth were baptized in the "titles" instead of "Jesus name" by the youth leaders! In addition to that, each were told to make the sign of the cross after they came out of the water!
Being born and raised in the Apostolic faith, I am spitting nails! Not only are those youth leaders still in place, I'm not sure they were ever reprimanded!
For the first time in years, I'm contemplating a move. Not sure. Someone has some 'splaining to do! 
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09-27-2011, 10:54 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
Every religion selects doctrines and embraces them as requirements to be saved. Most folks don't really need the Holy Spirit because their church tells the what all they have to "do", whether it is UC, PCI, or other, the folks "do" what they are taught. So, in what way are they "led by the Spirit"???
The Good News of the Gospel is that Jesus was the one sent from God, to save the lost. If a person truly believes that Jesus is the Son of God, and searches the scriptures and develops a relationship with God thru the son of man, that person's life will immediate begin to change. Isn't more important that that person's life is changed and he begin to produce the fruits of the Spirit, and allows the gifting of the Spirit to operate in him, rather than he go thru the "rites" of his religion.
I am content that a person that believes the above and is baptized in water has been baptized in Jesus Name, no matter what is "said" over him. And I am satisfied, that as one walks with the Lord, the Spirit will equip him with the tools he needs to do the work of the Spirit.
Apostolic religion produces religious Apostolics, just like other religions. Relationship with the Lord produces followers of Jesus, and less dependence upon religion. I have found devoted believers and followers of Jesus, all over the religious landscape. Guess what, being "baptized in the Spirit" is now all over the place, people are hungering and thirsting after God, not religious bondage. And God, is baptizing them, saving them and changing their lives, all without so called "apostolic roots". The fruit and the gifts of the Spirit is testifying that these things are of God.
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09-27-2011, 10:58 AM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Every religion selects doctrines and embraces them as requirements to be saved. Most folks don't really need the Holy Spirit because their church tells the what all they have to "do", whether it is UC, PCI, or other, the folks "do" what they are taught. So, in what way are they "led by the Spirit"???
The Good News of the Gospel is that Jesus was the one sent from God, to save the lost. If a person truly believes that Jesus is the Son of God, and searches the scriptures and develops a relationship with God thru the son of man, that person's life will immediate begin to change. Isn't more important that that person's life is changed and he begin to produce the fruits of the Spirit, and allows the gifting of the Spirit to operate in him, rather than he go thru the "rites" of his religion.
I am content that a person that believes the above and is baptized in water has been baptized in Jesus Name, no matter what is "said" over him. And I am satisfied, that as one walks with the Lord, the Spirit will equip him with the tools he needs to do the work of the Spirit.
Apostolic religion produces religious Apostolics, just like other religions. Relationship with the Lord produces followers of Jesus, and less dependence upon religion. I have found devoted believers and followers of Jesus, all over the religious landscape. Guess what, being "baptized in the Spirit" is now all over the place, people are hungering and thirsting after God, not religious bondage. And God, is baptizing them, saving them and changing their lives, all without so called "apostolic roots". The fruit and the gifts of the Spirit is testifying that these things are of God.
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09-28-2011, 11:11 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Perplexed!
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If he does or doesn't, I don't know.
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09-27-2011, 04:38 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
CC1 has not attended the church in question for a while now. Thas why he want the 411.
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09-27-2011, 04:55 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by berkeley
CC1 has not attended the church in question for a while now. Thas why he want the 411.
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Where has CC1 been going?
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