Perplexed!

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Where has CC1 been going?

To a church closer to his home.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by berkeley

To a church closer to his home.

He went Trinnie?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

He went Trinnie?

The wife had surgery on her back and the drive to Nashville was to painful. I believe he was attending a liberal UPC. I may be wrong about all of the above.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Where has CC1 been going?

For about a year to a cruisematic church that baptizes using both the titles and in Jesus Name then when my daughter (who is married to a Church of Christ guy) and her husband became members of a new (2 year old, one year old at that time) church plant in our town pastored by the former local UPC Youth Pastor, we were released by our pastor to go help with this new church and stay if we feel that is where we are called.

Our church is now two years old and has grown from a handful of people to around 200 people between two Sunday services. Congregation orginally made up of a lot of college students and disadvantged people (homeless, etc) but our growth has been very balanced with a lot of families, couples, etc coming.

Doctrine is PCI / One Step and baptism is in Jesus name.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CC1

For about a year to a cruisematic church that baptizes using both the titles and in Jesus Name then when my daughter (who is married to a Church of Christ guy) and her husband became members of a new (2 year old, one year old at that time) church plant in our town pastored by the former local UPC Youth Pastor, we were released by our pastor to go help with this new church and stay if we feel that is where we are called.

Our church is now two years old and has grown from a handful of people to around 200 people between two Sunday services. Congregation orginally made up of a lot of college students and disadvantged people (homeless, etc) but our growth has been very balanced with a lot of families, couples, etc coming.

Doctrine is PCI / One Step and baptism is in Jesus name.

Are they in M'boro? And who is the Pastor?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Are they in M'boro? And who is the Pastor?

The UPC church was The Pentecostals of Murfreesboro pastored by Phil DePriest (sp?).

[UnTraditional]

Pentecostalism is not sensationalism. Pentecostalism is biblical orthodoxy, not man's orthodoxy, especially Oneness Pentecostalism. Those going into the so called orthodox churches, and I know this from experience, are doing so out of their own desire to walk away from the power of God and His presence, instead seeking for churches that have some form of mental spirituality instead of true faith based churches. When a man walks away from this One God Pentecostal truth, he does so, not because of hurt or other reasons, but does so because of his own personal pride and sin many times. You can walk away from a church fellowship and still have the truth, but to walk away from truth is another story all together.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Pentecostalism is not sensationalism. Pentecostalism is biblical orthodoxy, not man's orthodoxy, especially Oneness Pentecostalism. Those going into the so called orthodox churches, and I know this from experience, are doing so out of their own desire to walk away from the power of God and His presence, instead seeking for churches that have some form of mental spirituality instead of true faith based churches. When a man walks away from this One God Pentecostal truth, he does so, not because of hurt or other reasons, but does so because of his own personal pride and sin many times. You can walk away from a church fellowship and still have the truth, but to walk away from truth is another story all together.

I have walked away from it all and God has really accomplished a great miracle in my life. I didn't walk away from UPC because of sin or pride. I love the people and the organization and it was with great pain that I left. It was my whole identity. I wanted to be a teacher like my dad until I started examining things for myself I realized I couldn't teach people something that wasn't true.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway

I attend a large ex-UPC church. I found out this week that during our Youth Camp this past summer, our youth were baptized in the "titles" instead of "Jesus name" by the youth leaders! In addition to that, each were told to make the sign of the cross after they came out of the water!

Being born and raised in the Apostolic faith, I am spitting nails! Not only are those youth leaders still in place, I'm not sure they were ever reprimanded!

For the first time in years, I'm contemplating a move. Not sure. Someone has some 'splaining to do!

Interesting...I don't even recall seeing Baptist make the sign of the cross after they came out of the water.

[Amanah]

Emergent Church Philosophy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_church

Creative and rediscovered spirituality
This can involve everything from expressive, neocharismatic style of worship and the use of contemporary music and films to more ancient liturgical customs and eclectic expressions of spirituality, with the goal of making the church gathering reflect the local community's tastes.

Emerging church practitioners are happy to take elements of worship from a wide variety of historic traditions, including traditions of the Catholic Church, the Anglican churches, the Orthodox churches, and Celtic Christianity. From these and other religious traditions emerging church groups take, adapt and blend various historic church practices including liturgy, prayer beads, icons, spiritual direction, the labyrinth, and lectio divina. The Emerging Church is also sometimes called the "Ancient-Future" church.[61]

One of the key social drives in Western Post-industrialised countries, is the rise in new/old forms of mysticism.[62][63] This rise in spirituality appears to be driven by the effects of consumerism, globalisation and advances in information technology.[64] Therefore, the Emerging Church is operating in a new context of postmodern spirituality, as a new form of mysticism. This capitalizes on the social shift in starting assumptions from the situation that most are regarded as materialist/atheist (the modern position), to the fact that many people now believe in and are searching for something more spiritual (postmodern view). This has been characterised as a major shift from religion to spirituality.[65]

So, in the new world of 'spiritual tourism', the Emerging Church Movement is seeking to missionally assist people to shift from being spiritual tourists to Christian pilgrims. Many are drawing on ancient Christian resources recontextualised into the contemporary such as contemplation and contemplative forms of prayer, symbolic multi-sensory worship, story telling and many others.[66] This again has required a change in focus as the majority of unchurched and dechurched people are seeking 'something that works' rather than something that is 'true'.[67]