Jewish Feasts

[Sean]

Mike, I reedited the post, please reread it.(I do that alot) thanks

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Originally Posted by Sean

Mike, I reedited the post, please reread it.(I do that alot) thanks

Please reread my response to it. Your edits change nothing about my response.

[Sean]

The unwritten Law "governs" the thoughts of mankind, until the written Law is revealed, then the 10 commandments become a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

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Originally Posted by Sean

The unwritten Law "governs" the thoughts of mankind, until the written Law is revealed, then the 10 commandments become a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

That is so out of context with what Gal 3 used the reference to a schoolmaster for, that I cannot begin to describe it.

[Sean]

The Law(10 commandments) were MY schoolmaster to lead me to Christ.

I was raised as a Catholic Gentile, being taught the 10. They condemned me daily when I grew older and fell into sins. I thought about them almost constantly and even banned myself from reading the Bible. I thought that "what I dont know wont hurt me". This is EXACTLY why I did not allow folks to witness to me. They were trying to show me I was a sinner through the Law.

It finally got the best of me as I began to repent of the sins that I learned were wrong FROM THE 10 Commandments.

Just think about what happened to me...the Law was the foundation of finding the Lord for me.

The New Birth came and I became FREE from the Law....

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

The Law(10 commandments) were MY schoolmaster to lead me to Christ.

I was raised as a Catholic Gentile, being taught the 10. They condemned me daily when I grew older and fell into sins. I thought about them almost constantly and even banned myself from reading the Bible. I thought that "what I dont know wont hurt me". This is EXACTLY why I did not allow folks to witness to me. They were trying to show me I was a sinner through the Law.

It finally got the best of me as I began to repent of the sins that I learned were wrong FROM THE 10 Commandments.

Just think about what happened to me...the Law was the foundation of finding the Lord for me.

The New Birth came and I became FREE from the Law....

That is way out of context with Gal 3. Gal 3 precedes Gal 4 where Paul said he worried himself over gentiles in the church going to Israel's laws. He says Israel's laws were a schoolmaster to bring Israel to Christ before Christi came. It readied them for HIM. He said it was Israel's schoolmaster to bring them to Christ and was GONE since Christ came. So, if it's gone for Israel since Christ came, it certainly is not meant for gentiles in the church after Christ. That cannot be used the way you use it.

Sorry, Sean. You just go way out there with violation of context too much for my interest in chatting. Bye.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That is way out of context with Gal 3. Gal 3 precedes Gal 4 where Paul said he worried himself over gentiles in the church going to Israel's laws. He says Israel's laws were a schoolmaster to bring Israel to Christ before Christi came. It readied them for HIM. He said it was Israel's schoolmaster to bring them to Christ and was GONE since Christ came. So, if it's gone for Israel since Christ came, it certainly is not meant for gentiles in the church after Christ. That cannot be used the way you use it.


FYI, Mike, the book of Galatians was written to Jew and Gentile alike, You insist that it was written to Jews only it seems, when nearly the entire book was a warning to Gentiles not to get mixed up in the Law. You seem to think that the Gentiles were oblivious of what the Septuagint said in Galatia. This book(Septuagint) was about the Law for All to understand. The Gentiles learned about the O.T. teachings to repent of their sins and find Christ along with the Jews in Galatia. We use the exact same methods of teaching the O.T. to win souls to the N.T. today!

Well lets see here Mike.....23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Mike before MY faith came, I was under the Law(10 Commandments)

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

The Law "taught" me about my sins, and my need to shed them...or else! ("our" and "us" are to all of the readers of the book.)

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.("we" as in all readers)

This passage implies, in the event that we do not believe, that if FAITH does not come, you are STILL under the schoolmaster.

What happens when faith DOES NOT COME?



Sorry, Sean. You just go way out there with violation of context too much for my interest in chatting. Bye.

I understand Mike, if you cant run with the big dogs it best to stay on the porch...LOL

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Originally Posted by Sean

I understand Mike, if you cant run with the big dogs it best to stay on the porch...LOL

As if.... lol You know better than that. This from the guy who never failed to escape from a chat on prophecy leaving our questions unanswered?

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Gal 3:23-29 KJV But before faith came, we (JEWS) were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. (24) Wherefore the law was our (JEWS) schoolmaster to bring us (JEWS) unto Christ, that we (JEWS)might be justified by faith. (25) But after that faith is come, we (JEWS) are no longer under a schoolmaster. (26) For ye (GENTILES) are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you (GENTILES) as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (28) There is neither Jew (US) nor Greek (YOU), there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (29) And if ye (GENTILES) be Christ's, then are ye (GENTILES) Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

It was a given that the believing Jews were Abraham's children. So Paul spoke to GENTILES in the church telling them THEY were Abraham's children without ever having bee under law like the Jews were.

Gal 4:1-11 KJV Now I say, That the heir (JEWS), as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant (GENTILES), though he be lord of all; (2) But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. (3) Even so we (JEWS), when we (JEWS) were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world (LAW): (4) But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, (5) To redeem them that were under the law (JEWS), that we (JEWS) might receive the adoption of sons. (6) And because ye (GENTILES) are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your (GENTILES) hearts, crying, Abba, Father. (7) Wherefore thou (GENTILES) art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. (8) Howbeit then, when ye (GENTILES) knew not God, ye (GENTILES) did service unto them which by nature are no gods. (9) But now, after that ye (GENTILES) have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye (GENTILES) again to the weak and beggarly elements (LAW), whereunto ye (GENTILES) desire again to be in bondage? (10) Ye (GENTILES) observe days, and months, and times, and years (JEWISH FEASTS). (11) I am afraid of you (GENTILES), lest I have bestowed upon you (GENTILES) labour in vain.

The summary is that Jews were under schoolmaster of law to come to Christ and graduated from school to find Christ when He arrived. School was then OUT.

But the Gentile believers who were servants to idolatrous bondage before they were saved traded their servitude to LAW's bondage after they were saved by taking the school for Jews to be theirs, when the Jews were not even under law after Christ came!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

As if.... lol You know better than that. This from the guy who never failed to escape from a chat on prophecy leaving our questions unanswered?

You know what happened there Mike...Your buddy started to try to pick a fight in the flesh with me. You really should have stopped him.

The Holy Ghost wanted me to back out because your buddy has big time spiritual problems.

The Holy Ghost has shown me the dark side of preterism. Its funny, I read a internet post about it and they said the preterists get irate when you really confront them. I agree, because I saw it myself.