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01-11-2016, 12:31 AM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
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Originally Posted by n david
She won't go to prison. Nah, people like HC don't go to prison. But she will be criminally convicted and forced out of the race. She'll be like Sandy Berger and only get probation and pay a fine.
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Let's see what John Arcovio has to say about it.
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01-11-2016, 03:21 AM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
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She won't go to prison. Nah, people like HC don't go to prison. But she will be criminally convicted and forced out of the race. She'll be like Sandy Berger and only get probation and pay a fine.
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With everything else she and her hubby have gotten away with, and people think she is gonna be 'convicted' over THIS?
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01-11-2016, 02:08 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
Keep The Promise has contacted 20,000 South Carolina voters in the last two months.
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Republican Primary Pits Cruz's Ground Operation Against Trump's Celebrity
“The Cruz people have some fire there,” Whetsell, who is so far unaffiliated with any candidate, said in an interview. “I’m not convinced that the Trump campaign has that sort of realness to it, at this point.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...p-s-celebrirty
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01-11-2016, 02:23 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
Facts on Ted Cruz and Obamacare:
Obamacare:
• Cruz made a name for himself as a conservative leader through his efforts to defund Obamacare during his 21-hour-long floor speech, which spanned two days, from September 24-25, 2013.[1] During his speech, grassroots conservatives across the country rallied around Cruz’s efforts and #MakeDCListen began trending on twitter. “I’ll talk until I can’t stand anymore. Don’t worry, I have government-run health insurance. I’ll be fine.”[2],[3]
• Cruz has been the leader in the Senate of the defund Obamacare movement. He has introduced a number of bills to defund and repeal Obamacare.
• Introduced the Defund Obamacare Act of 2013 that would defund Obamacare by preventing taxpayer dollars from being used to implement the law[4]
• In January 2013, Cruz introduced the Obamacare Repeal Act[5]
• Authored an amendment prohibiting the use of any funds in an appropriations bill from going to Obamacare[6]
• Authored an amendment to replace Obamacare with patient-centered, free-market reforms to improve health outcomes and reduce health care costs, promoting economic growth[7]
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[1] http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ted-c...ry?id=20365712
[2] www.washingtonpost.com/sf/nati...
[3] www.ijreview.com/2013/09/81563...
[4] https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-...?resultIndex=2
[5] www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=sponsor...
[6] https://www.congress.gov/amendment/1.../26/cosponsors
[7] https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-...t-resolution/8
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01-11-2016, 05:35 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
How the Second Amendment ‘Proves’ Ted Cruz’s Eligibility
Conclusion
All three factors an originalist considers—original plain meaning, history, and structure—point in the same direction here. A person is a natural born citizen for purposes of Article II if he was a citizen the moment he was born.
Cruz was born to an American mother, and therefore both under the laws of this nation’s founding, and also the laws in effect when he was born in 1970, he is a natural born citizen of the United States.
See more: http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ond-amendment/
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01-13-2016, 12:43 AM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
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Originally Posted by Esaias
With everything else she and her hubby have gotten away with, and people think she is gonna be 'convicted' over THIS?
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01-12-2016, 12:21 AM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
Cruz is eligible, just as BHO was eligible...
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01-12-2016, 05:56 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
Cruz is eligible, just as BHO was eligible...
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Right. The argument centers on "natural born" and parentage.
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The term “natural born citizen” had no existence or independent original meaning prior to the moment it was included in the Constitution the United States was founded. It was adapted by the framers [of the Constitution] from the well-known British concept of the “natural born subject” of the sovereign monarch. England had numerous and changing legal rules governing exactly who was and who was not a “natural born subject,” which can be used to muddy the waters. But one consistently applied rule is particularly germane: The offspring of the King were natural born subjects of the King regardless of where they were born, whether on English territory or not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-born-citizen/
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While some constitutional issues are truly difficult, with framing-era sources either nonexistent or contradictory, here, the relevant materials clearly indicate that a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. . .
http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/...-born-citizen/
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On parentage:
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Beginning in 1934, Congress began recognizing transfer of citizenship through the mother. [Naturalization Act of 1934, Section 1, 48 Stat. 797.]
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It is as Ted Cruz has stated - straight forward.
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“I will say it is more than a little strange to see Donald relying on as authoritative a liberal, left-wing, judicial activist Harvard law professor who is a huge Hillary supporter,” Cruz said to reporters in New Hampshire following a campaign rally, apparently referencing Harvard Law professor Lawrence Tribe’s legal analysis. “It starts to make you think, ‘Gosh, why are some of Hillary’s strongest supporters backing Donald Trump?’”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...01/12/2760384/
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01-12-2016, 06:59 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
Cruz bails on the "audit the Fed" vote today, after all that talk?
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01-12-2016, 07:30 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official
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Cruz bails on the "audit the Fed" vote today, after all that talk? 
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He didn't vote, which means a no. Cloture was not invoked, which means he is wanting to further the debate.
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