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Old 05-19-2016, 12:06 PM
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but then neither are statements like "Islam is a threat," wadr. A threat to whom?
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but then neither are statements like "Islam is a threat," wadr. A threat to whom?
Well when a Muslim scholar comes out and says that muslims will replace the blonde hair blue eyed people in Germany, how is that not a threat?
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well, i am both German, and blonde/blue, yet i feel no threat personally, nor to my posterity. Why bite?
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well, i am both German, and blonde/blue, yet i feel no threat personally, nor to my posterity. Why bite?
Why dont you feel a threat?
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man, how do i even answer that? Because Germany is of the world, and i am not? Because God is in control? Whom shall i fear? Some fake Muslim scholar?
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man, how do i even answer that? Because Germany is of the world, and i am not? Because God is in control? Whom shall i fear? Some fake Muslim scholar?


You are not of the world, but you are in the world. often times we cloak our apathy and lack of will to survive in a cloak of spirituality.

Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given , preventive opportunities.

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And what exactly is the danger here? That a human construct, "Germany," might be different tomorrow than it is today? Aren't you essentially calling me to fear and resist the inevitable? "Germany" will soon cease to exist, historically speaking, even while the nation who identifies as German will surely remain.

So i think my argument is, what do you identify with? America? Which America? The one that is already gone, the one we have now, or the one that will shortly no longer be? Isn't this building a house on sand? And trying to serve two masters as well?

What you fear is what will come to pass.
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And what exactly is the danger here? That a human construct, "Germany," might be different tomorrow than it is today? Aren't you essentially calling me to fear and resist the inevitable? "Germany" will soon cease to exist, historically speaking, even while the nation who identifies as German will surely remain.

So i think my argument is, what do you identify with? America? Which America? The one that is already gone, the one we have now, or the one that will shortly no longer be? Isn't this building a house on sand? And trying to serve two masters as well?

What you fear is what will come to pass.

I would view the loss of Germany as one of the greatest losses in the history of mankind.
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