Chris reed joins the ministry elite

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Then how can they be workers of lawlessness?

As a teen I was told this was about the trinitarians.

But, many don’t even receive the Holy Ghost, they learn “prayer talk.”

It is proven over and over again that they falsify miracles.


So,..!?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Then how can they be workers of lawlessness?

Obviously then the supernatural is not always through obedience.

What is interesting about these characters described by Jesus is they do these miraculous and supernatural things in His Name. Yet they are workers of iniquity (lawlessness). What is also interesting is they CLAIM to be doing these supernatural things, but are they really? Or is that just what they believe? The text seems to indicate they actually believe they have done miraculous and wonderful works, so apparently *something* was going on that to them appeared miraculous and supernatural.

But in any event, they are shown the door, because even though they profess to be Christians and that Jesus is their Lord it is only lip service, they do not actually obey Him, they are practitioners of lawlessness. A lot of strange things happen in life, weird stuff goes on all the time. But one thing we can be sure of, the only ones entering into Life are those who actually obey God's commandments.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Then how can they be workers of lawlessness?

Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Compare this scripture to,

Mark 16:17-18
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

One portion of scripture is saying there will be some that tell the Lord all they have done, yet they never knew him? They never had a relationship with him, there was never an intimate knowing of the Lord. Then how could have they done all this? It could be what they felt like they have done in "Jesus name" but really they took the lords name in vain, and accomplished nothing. Because before the verse in Matthew it talks about a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, a hypocrite will stat what they have done, but there is no fruit to prove what he has done.

Now, when we read Mark, it's saying as plain as the sun giving light, that signs are going to follow a believer. If there are no signs following you and I are we a believer?

[diakonos]

I will add, many don’t even pray in Jesus’ name. They pray in the name of the F, S, Hg.

[Amanah]

Maybe I don't know the answer to the infidelity problem, but I'm guessing it's true discipleship in small groups with time spent together, teaching biblical principles and accountability. You can't do this seeing someone once or twice a week. And it's difficult to undo the extreme brain washing of the world's education, culture, and entertainment system.

Like someone said, it's the people who are supporting this behavior and keeping these ministries in power positions.

People who can't discern a false prophet, or know the qualifications for ministry, or basic issues of right and wrong.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Maybe I don't know the answer to the infidelity problem, but I'm guessing it's true discipleship in small groups with time spent together, teaching biblical principles and accountability. You can't do this seeing someone once or twice a week. And it's difficult to undo the extreme brain washing of the world's education, culture, and entertainment system.

Like someone said, it's the people who are supporting this behavior and keeping these ministries in power positions.

People who can't discern a false prophet, or know the qualifications for ministry, or basic issues of right and wrong.

Sister, you hit the bullseye! 👍🏽

[Evang.Benincasa]

MUST SEE! The Holy SPIRIT brings Words of Knowledge for healing, called out by NAME and affliction!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX8E4VtUtaE

[Amanah]

Anyone on the planet could walk into a large congregation and say the Lord showed me there are people here named Chris, Tim, Tom, and Dianne, suffering back, knee, and sinus problems and God wants to heal you, please come forward. And get a response.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Anyone on the planet could walk into a large congregation and say the Lord showed me there are people here named Chris, Tim, Tom, and Dianne, suffering back, knee, and sinus problems and God wants to heal you, please come forward. And get a response.

Anyone can’t to the extent that Chris did. He climbed near to the top by listening to the voice of another spirit. A minister about a year ago told Chris you need to see what you’re doing and how it’s affecting your family. This minister told him, there is a price to pay and you’ll pay it with your children and wife. From my understanding that minister didn’t know about the thing with this women, yet God was giving Chris a chance to repent and walk away. Sadly, I don’t say this with glee or excitement, Chris didn’t chose that, and now his deeds are being opened like a book for all to read and see.

It’s more than just walking into a large congregation and cold calling a persons “issues”. He idolized William Branham and I do believe he was following the same spirit guide as his idol. Time will tell…

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Anyone can’t to the extent that Chris did.

With all do respect, I do believe this is a cognitive bias in overestimating Chris' capabilities.