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Old 06-28-2007, 07:25 AM
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Birth Control

Birth control is any means to prevent procreation.

An abortion is a method of birth control.


“And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.” Genesis 25:22

“Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.” Job 3:3

How many babies have you killed? Most married Christians are guilty of killing babies. If your method of birth control is not condoms or early removal, you are guilty!


"... ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." 1 John 3:15


http://www.lifeandlibertyministries....ves/000027.php

http://www.jesus-passion.com/bcpill1.html

http://www.morningafterpill.org/

http://www.morningafterpill.org/map2.htm

http://www.morningafterpill.org/mapinfo1.htm

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/177805.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1813909.stm

‘Diprovera’ causes abortions in the womb.

‘Nor Plant’ causes abortions in the womb

Birth control pills cause abortions in the womb.


The Pill is the most common form of birth control. It is legalized murder!





- IUDs cause abortions in the womb
THE IUD
The primary mechanism of Intrauterine Devices (IUDs) is abortifacient (abortion inducing). While they may occasionally prevent conception
(i.e., fertilization, where the egg and the sperm unite in the Fallopian tube), this is not the main mechanism of action. After conception occurs, the fertilized egg (a new human being by every medical and biblical definition) arrives in the uterus 6 to 10 days later. If an IUD is in place, this tiny human encounters a hostile uterine environment and is unable to implant into the uterine wall. Thus, he or she is aborted-the IUD has caused the death of this new life in the uterus.
This is why the Food and Drug Administration now labels IUDs as "antiimplantational," describing them as working at the uterine level (6 to 10 days postconception)

Sophisticated studies of women using IUDs have shown that frequently they demonstrate positive pregnancy tests (Beta HCG serum levels) that then become negative again over a period of time. This, of course, demonstrates that conception has taken place and is then followed by the death of the young person in the womb.

These sobering facts have led most Christian doctors (and informed Christian couples) to regard IUDs as morally unacceptable. They are not contraceptives! Even evangelical Protestants who do not necessarily oppose contraception must deal with the often neglected but very real facts about so called contraceptives that are really abortifacients.

By David Sterns, M.D.,
Gina Sterns, R.N., B.S.N.,
and Pamela Yaksich

From: http://www.vitalsignsministries.org/vsmthepill.html


- The Abortion Pill -Non Surgical Abortion RU486- Mifeprex (”Medical Abortion”) This pill is used in early abortions with the assistance of an Abortuaries.

RU486 is Mifeprex (Mifepristone), The Abortion Pill

How does Mifeprex work?
Mifeprex blocks a hormone needed for your pregnancy to continue. When used together with another medicine called misoprostol, Mifeprex ends your pregnancy.

From: http://www.ru486.com/topics/articles/article_73.asp

http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/abo...pillapprov.htm


- The Morning after Pill

http://www.morningafterpill.org/

http://www.morningafterpill.org/map2.htm

http://www.morningafterpill.org/mapinfo1.htm

As a Christian do you say, ‘I don’t like killing a baby.’


Pro-Life information

http://www.abortiontv.com/


Drug information

http://www.rxlist.com/script/main/hp.asp


The perversion of Christianity in America:

http://christiancontraception.com/ru486.php


"The voluntary spilling of semen outside of intercourse between man and woman is a monstrous thing. Deliberately to withdraw from coitus in order that semen may fall on the ground is doubly monstrous. For this is to extinguish the hope of the race and to kill before he is born the hoped-for offspring." John Calvin

"Those sins that dishonor the body are very displeasing to God, and the evidence of vile affections. Observe, the thing which he [Onan] did displeased the Lord—and it is to be feared; thousands, especially of single persons, by this very thing, still displease the Lord, and destroy their own souls." John Wesley

This is the Introduction to my Biblical study on 'Birth Control'.


In Jesus,
Brother Bruce
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:37 AM
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Excellent article! I agree whole-heartedly. Thank you for posting this information, I will investigate the links too.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:44 AM
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How is taking "The Pill" murder? Does it not prevent conception?
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:49 AM
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How is taking "The Pill" murder? Does it not prevent conception?
That's what we are generally told, but unfortunately that is not always the case. Sometimes conception occurs, but the baby is lost because the pill brings on the period, or creates an atmosphere in the womb where the baby dies.

When I found that out, I CRIED, wondering how many babies I could have had and lost and never knew.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:13 AM
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This is an excellent article full of information for any who do not know these things. Thank you for printing for us

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Old 06-28-2007, 10:28 AM
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Unfortunately, I was on the pill for three years and never knew this information until I was off years later. I purposely looked for a for of BC that would not cause abortion and found out later that it may have!

As far as the morning after pill, from my understanding the Catholic hopsitals do an ovulation test before giving it. If a woman is not ovulating, it can prevent pregnancy (as in the case of rape) but if a woman is ovulating it could cause abortion. If a woman wanted to take the morning after pill, apparently she could safely do so with the ovulation test if it came back negative.

The compassionate care bill in many states is trying to force Catholic hospitals (and all hospitals) into giving rape victims the option of the morning after pill in any circumstance. There is only a little opposition to this even from some right to life groups because of the controversial nature of this.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:52 AM
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My OBGYN started me on the pill at 17, for health reasons. They certainly didn't do anything to improve my overall health. Fortunately, I only took the pill for about 6 months...they made me so absolutely sick (among other things) that I stopped using them altogether...permanently.

Now that I know more about them, I wouldn't even consider it.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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Guilt

Those who have used the 'pill' or had an abortion need our love.

Guilt is good, but guilt needs to be removed to live a Christian life.

Years ago we had a bumper sticker that read 'Abortion - the Ultimate Child Abuse'.

We received verbal confrontation as ladies drove by.

In the Spirit, I knew these ladies were hurting. All I could do was pray for them. I would cry as they drove away.


Jesus loves YOU! He cares for YOU!

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

In Jesus,
Brother Bruce
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:26 PM
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There are lots of medications that will cause harm to an unborn child and even cause an abortion to happen, but we don't abstain from them if we need them.

This may sound crass, and I'm sure it will come across wrong, but I feel that it's kinda like 'what I don't know won't hurt me', and I'd rather someone take the pill to prevent pregnancy than for them to have a kid they can't afford and instead, abuse or neglect them...even if it causes the baby to be lost (which rarely happens, BTW).
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:27 AM
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I just know that in my personal case, had the doctors been more informative, and given me ALL the information about them, I don't think I would have taken them to begin with.
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