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07-28-2007, 11:45 AM
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It seems that some of the ones most concerned about the "history" are those who have changed their doctrinal positions and somehow feel that they are validated by finding men in the past who believed the same.
This is not the case with those like Felicity who were always taught the "PCI" view.
Your doctrine is right or not right according to the Scriptures, not because Howard Goss agreed with you.
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07-28-2007, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coonskinner
It seems that some of the ones most concerned about the "history" are those who have changed their doctrinal positions and somehow feel that they are validated by finding men in the past who believed the same.
This is not the case with those like Felicity who were always taught the "PCI" view.
Your doctrine is right or not right according to the Scriptures, not because Howard Goss agreed with you.
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As always the pattern here is to attack the messenger ... never really dealing w/ the message ....
examples
Fudge is not reliable.
This is a tool for the "counterfeit" PCIers
KP is a bedfellow of a heretic.
Highly predictable ... yet stale.
The problem here CS is that when truth doesn't emanate from those who agree with you or it can't be "controlled" ... the claws come out.
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07-28-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
As always the pattern here is to attack the messenger ... never really dealing w/ the message ....
examples
Fudge is not reliable.
This is a tool for the "counterfeit" PCIers
KP is a bedfellow of a heretic.
Highly predictable ... yet stale.
The problem here CS is that when truth doesn't emanate from those that agree with you or it can't be "controlled" ... the claws come out.
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No claws there, Brother.
You're the one attacking here.
Carry on, I'll leave you be.
I've had my last fuss with you, as far as I am concerned.
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07-28-2007, 11:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
As always the pattern here is to attack the messenger ... never really dealing w/ the message ....
examples
Fudge is not reliable.
This is a tool for the "counterfeit" PCIers
KP is a bedfellow of a heretic.
Highly predictable ... yet stale.
The problem here CS is that when truth doesn't emanate from those that agree with you or it can't be "controlled" ... the claws come out.
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Brother Daniel are who is Thomas Fudge? What do you know about him?
Please I want to know what do you know about him?
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07-28-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Brother Daniel are who is Thomas Fudge? What do you know about him?
Please I want to know what do you know about him?
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I know who he is ... his history in NB, Canada... his dad ... and about his formal education ... I have even spoken to a couple of people who knew him as a child. He's not a clown off the street, Benni.
I know what he is now within his ecumenical church ... and his soteriological views.
From his website.
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Thomas A. Fudge is Senior Lecturer in History at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand. He holds a B.A. in Religion from Warner Pacific College, a Master of Divinity from the Iliff School of Theology, a PhD in theology from Otago University (NZ) and a PhD in History from the University of Cambridge (UK). He is the author of The Magnificent Ride: The First Reformation in Hussite Bohemia (1998), Daniel Warner and the Paradox of Religious Democracy in Nineteenth–Century America (1998), The Crusade Against Heretics in Bohemia (2002) and more than thirty scholarly articles in academic journals on various aspects of religious history.
Thomas Fudge was a member of the United Pentecostal Church from 1964 to 1984. He worked in churches in New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia in Canada, and in Oregon, Washington and Idaho in the United States. His early studies were taken at Conquerors Bible College in Portland, Oregon.
He lists among his mentors and significant spiritual and theological influences, former United Pentecostal Church ministers C.H. Yadon and Don Fisher, as well as his father James G. Fudge who is presently an ordained minister in the United Pentecostal Church. Subsequent to 1984 he has worked for the American Baptist Church, the Church of God (Anderson, Indiana), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Evangelical Covenant Church, the United Methodist Church and the Anglican Church in New Zealand. He has several years of ministerial experience and previously served as pastor of the Church of our Redeemer in Oregon.
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These type questions usually lead to character assassination ...
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07-28-2007, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I know who he is ... his history in NB, Canada... his dad ... and about his formal education ... I have even spoken to a couple of people who knew him as a child. He's not a clown off the street, Benni.
I know what he is now within his ecumenical church ... and his soteriological views.
From his website.
These type questions usually lead to character assassination ...
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I asked you if YOU knew Thomas Fudge, not know of, Thomas Fudge, I could've produced the same information. I'm asking if you know this individual who you are defending so. Brother Daniel I'm not your enemy, I'm just saying that people should look well at what they are reading. I'm not going to tell anyone that Fudge's book is the absolute truth without further study. I would never tell anyone that. I think you really need to check out why you are charging the gate so hard, you would be in my corner if I were saying to research and scrutinize an Elder Bernard book. So isn't that agenda motivated on your part?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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07-28-2007, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coonskinner
It seems that some of the ones most concerned about the "history" are those who have changed their doctrinal positions and somehow feel that they are validated by finding men in the past who believed the same.
This is not the case with those like Felicity who were always taught the "PCI" view.
Your doctrine is right or not right according to the Scriptures, not because Howard Goss agreed with you.
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CS, I am most interested and have changed nothing...I hope I am not labeled with the "some" you mentioned...I trust you know me better than that.
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07-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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Step By Step - Day By Day
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When I was home I was talking with friends one evening and "the book" and the author came up. There was a distinct chill in the air. 
Even so, I carefully and kindly took the opportunity to encourage them to read the book. 
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Smiles & Blessings....
~Felicity Welsh~
(surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
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07-28-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
When I was home I was talking with friends one evening and "the book" and the author came up. There was a distinct chill in the air. |
Maybe you had the air conditioner up to high?
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Originally Posted by Felicity
Even so, I carefully and kindly took the opportunity to encourage them to read the book. |
Sounds wonderful, did you add that they should take everything with a grain of salt?
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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07-28-2007, 12:01 PM
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Step By Step - Day By Day
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Maybe you had the air conditioner up to high?
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We were sitting on the deck with the moon smiling down on us eating steak and salad by candlelight (and moonlight of course). It did get a little chilly and I had to grab a sweater. Hehe. 
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Sounds wonderful, did you add that they should take everything with a grain of salt?
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No, but I know how to be diplomatic bro.
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Smiles & Blessings....
~Felicity Welsh~
(surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
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