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Old 10-30-2007, 08:40 AM
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At the tower of Babel when the language was confounded the folks there found those who spoke the same language which became their identity. Thus in these last days it is the same men of differing stripes are looking for those who speak the same language over the complete spectrum of Pentecost. Have you noticed NO cons have been preaching at Christ Church? Likes attract. Is this evil??? I think not. I believe the Lord is in this myself. If the passing of Res. 4 was the sole reason it would be foolish but everyone on each side knows this is NOT the reason but the last straw.
Nearly all special speakers at Christ Church are non-Pentecostal, much less conservative Pentecostals!!
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:44 AM
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Nearly all special speakers at Christ Church are non-Pentecostal, much less conservative Pentecostals!!
If this is out of bounds forgive me I have no desire to offend you please. What about your grandchildren???????????? You and your wife have experienced the HGB doesn't it concern you that they might not ever hear or recieve it? Just say it is not necessary to be saved it is certainly necessary to live an overcoming life and the assistance in prayer? Again if this is too personal ignore it.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:51 AM
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If this is out of bounds forgive me I have no desire to offend you please. What about your grandchildren???????????? You and your wife have experienced the HGB doesn't it concern you that they might not ever hear or recieve it? Just say it is not necessary to be saved it is certainly necessary to live an overcoming life and the assistance in prayer? Again if this is too personal ignore it.
This is a MAJOR consideration Bro. Epley.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:54 AM
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If this is out of bounds forgive me I have no desire to offend you please. What about your grandchildren???????????? You and your wife have experienced the HGB doesn't it concern you that they might not ever hear or recieve it? Just say it is not necessary to be saved it is certainly necessary to live an overcoming life and the assistance in prayer? Again if this is too personal ignore it.
My son-in-law, who was raised Baptist, has been attending Christ Church with us for almost four years. A few months ago, I brought up HGB in a conversation that we were having, and he responded, "What's that?". I try to be very careful not to offend, but I do say how important that HGB is!

My children have all received the HGB, but not all of the spouses have. I do pray for my grandchildren!
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:57 AM
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My son-in-law, who was raised Baptist, has been attending Christ Church with us for almost four years. A few months ago, I brought up HGB in a conversation that we were having, and he responded, "What's that?". I try to be very careful not to offend, but I do say how important that HGB is!

My children have all received the HGB, but not all of the spouses have. I do pray for my grandchildren!
Has he not heard anyone speak in tongues during a service in 4 years?

Has he not seen anyone get the Holy Ghost during a service in 4 years?
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:02 AM
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Has he not heard anyone speak in tongues during a service in 4 years?

Has he not seen anyone get the Holy Ghost during a service in 4 years?
He has heard tongues and interpretation, and folks speak in tongues while praying, but he thought that was all the charismatic gift of tongues. He doesn't remember a message about a personal baptism of the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues.

We have a large church so the alter area is pretty far from where he sits. He has not been close enough to witness someone receiving the HGB!
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He has heard tongues and interpretation, and folks speak in tongues while praying, but he thought that was all the charismatic gift of tongues. He doesn't remember a message about a personal baptism of the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues.

We have a large church so the alter area is pretty far from where he sits. He has not been close enough to witness someone receiving the HGB!
Again forgive the personal reference I certainly have no desire to offend you. I was visiting my father once and went to service with him he is a Charismatic preacher I guess because I was there he preached about the HGB and asked how many had spoken in tongues maybe 20% raised their hands in a crowd of about 2000. The shock on my father's face was evident. As we went to lunch he did not mention it and neither did I.
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Again forgive the personal reference I certainly have no desire to offend you. I was visiting my father once and went to service with him he is a Charismatic preacher I guess because I was there he preached about the HGB and asked how many had spoken in tongues maybe 20% raised their hands in a crowd of about 2000. The shock on my father's face was evident. As we went to lunch he did not mention it and neither did I.
Very sad.

I remember reading a statistic concerning the Assemblies of God. Apparently they keep stats of how many of their new/recent members are receiving the Holy Ghost, and I believe the number was in the 50-55% range. This was about 10 years ago I read this, but I imagine the number probably hasnt changed that much in the past decade.

Just sad to see so many people going to chuch thinking they're "saved" even without the Holy Ghost, because their church teaches its an 'extra blessing', not a necessity for salvation.
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