I'm splitting hell wide open...

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by COOPER

White shoes?????

Tennis shoes or dress shoes?

Men rarely wear White dress shoes un-less you are a Naval Officer.

They are tennis shoes, Champion brand. They have blue outlines.

I wear them for work and clinical.

[chseeads]

Did you get fire-retardant soles? If not, you should have, might've helped walking on the brimstone.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by chseeads

Did you get fire-retardant soles? If not, you should have, might've helped walking on the brimstone.

ROFL! You are something else, cheesy.

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Yes, it's true.

Today, I went to the mall in Green Bay and bought myself a pair of.....






*gasp*








MEN'S SHOES!!!!


I had to. None of the ones in the women's section fit me.

I can't help it. I have big feet. I wear a 11 1/2 in men's. Most of the women's 12's just don't fit.

They are nice though. They are just plain black, casual style. If asked, I'll provide a pic.

I bought a pair of white men's shoes a couple weeks ago. Again, no choice when I have such big feet.

But what is devastating is that I'm violating Deut 22:5. But what is a big-footed girl to do, go barefoot??

Y'all pray for me.

I bought two really big T-shirts in the men's section last week and I thought about this... LOL

funny how is is just the pants associated w/men's clothing when we share so many other types of clothing such as tshirts, shoes/boots, coats, gloves...

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I bought two really big T-shirts in the men's section last week and I thought about this... LOL

funny how is is just the pants associated w/men's clothing when we share so many other types of clothing such as tshirts, shoes/boots, coats, gloves...

Well, that's why I started this thread. Why am I not considered to be wearing men's apparel when I buy their shoes? I mean, I'm not buying these in the women's section, they are mens!!!

[LadyRev]

Nah, you're perfectly safe.

The "manual" says nothing about shoes...

Course, it doesn't say anything about pants either.

Guess it must not be salvational...therefore, no hell splitting today my friend.

Try, try, again. (Actually, don't try. There are plenty of options out there )

[LadyRev]

As for t-shirts, hats, boots, gloves, coats, etc. you know good and well that those things are "accessories" and don't really count as "apparel".

[Sam]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

...I bought a pair of white men's shoes a couple weeks ago....

white men's shoes
or
men's white shoes?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

...
But what is devastating is that I'm violating Deut 22:5.
...

Our OT except for a few verses was written in Hebrew. After the Jews were disbursed to Babylon and then regathered after 70 years, many had picked up the language of Bablylon and Hebrew was becoming unfamiliar. In Nehemiah chapter 8 it is recorded that the people came together to hear the Bible read. Ezra the priest stood on a high platform and read from the Scriptures. Ezra is called a cohen or priest and a Torah teacher in Neh. 8:9. Earlier verses say that Ezra opened the scroll and read. As he read the Scriptures were explained and translated so the people could understand. This was probably in the fall or October of 445 B.C. The Hebrew scriptures were explained or paraphrased in the Aramaic language which they had brought from Bablylon.

Later in the synagogs where Jews gathered, when the Scriptures were read in Hebrew they would be explained or paraphrased verse by verse in a commonly understood language. These oral explanations were called Targums or Targamim which was plural for targum or Aramaic. At first these targums were not supposed to be written down but later were. There are two targums from around the first century that are still around. One is called the Jonathan Targum and one is called the Onkelos Targum.

A parallel to this would be our modern paraphases which are meant to simplify the older unfamiliar language that was used in England in the seventeenth century and is found in our King James Bible.

Just for something interesting, here is Deuteronomy 22:5 from the Johathan Targum
"Neither fringed robes nor tephillin which are the ornaments of a man shall be upon a woman; neither shall a man shave himself so as to appear like a woman; for every one who doeth so is an abomination before the Lord thy God."

From what I understand, that would be the way a first century Jew or Christian would hear that verse read in his language at the synagog. I don't know just how that would go over in a UPC church today which discourages facial hair on men and pants on women.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Sam

Our OT except for a few verses was written in Hebrew. After the Jews were disbursed to Babylon and then regathered after 70 years, many had picked up the language of Bablylon and Hebrew was becoming unfamiliar. In Nehemiah chapter 8 it is recorded that the people came together to hear the Bible read. Ezra the priest stood on a high platform and read from the Scriptures. Ezra is called a cohen or priest and a Torah teacher in Neh. 8:9. Earlier verses say that Ezra opened the scroll and read. As he read the Scriptures were explained and translated so the people could understand. This was probably in the fall or October of 445 B.C. The Hebrew scriptures were explained or paraphrased in the Aramaic language which they had brought from Bablylon.

Later in the synagogs where Jews gathered, when the Scriptures were read in Hebrew they would be explained or paraphrased verse by verse in a commonly understood language. These oral explanations were called Targums or Targamim which was plural for targum or Aramaic. At first these targums were not supposed to be written down but later were. There are two targums from around the first century that are still around. One is called the Jonathan Targum and one is called the Onkelos Targum.

A parallel to this would be our modern paraphases which are meant to simplify the older unfamiliar language that was used in England in the seventeenth century and is found in our King James Bible.

Just for something interesting, here is Deuteronomy 22:5 from the Johathan Targum
"Neither fringed robes nor tephillin which are the ornaments of a man shall be upon a woman; neither shall a man shave himself so as to appear like a woman; for every one who doeth so is an abomination before the Lord thy God."

From what I understand, that would be the way a first century Jew or Christian would hear that verse read in his language at the synagog. I don't know just how that would go over in a UPC church today which discourages facial hair on men and pants on women.

Now that is very interesting Sam. Where could I buy that J.Targum for study purposes?