Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by pujols12B
If you are going to keep the old "holiness standards", then get rid of your radios in your cars and quit reading anything but the Bible, because that it what was taught. Or are you just keeping the one you like?
I’m sure this is not the bases of your argument.
Dan'D
Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
I have been gone for a while, but one hour back and I realize why I stayed gone. I am in Singapore and I heard a young man which most of you do not know or will ever hear. He is in my opinion wise beyond his years. He said 'Religion is simply using God's Word to try to justify your agenda' and he also said 'The Bible states, working out your salvation with fear and trambling, not love and grace!' It would seem that everything posted on this forum turns into someones chance to make a joke about someone else. Even those who should inspire turn into comedians. I just don't think God views holiness as something to be joked about, and neither will many people 60 secs into eternity. I am certain this post will be somehow turned into an object of derision, but that would be par for the AFF then wouldn't it? Love and prayers to all.
If you become like everyone else, there are no 'separate people'.
Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by Todd
I have been gone for a while, but one hour back and I realize why I stayed gone. I am in Singapore and I heard a young man which most of you do not know or will ever hear. He is in my opinion wise beyond his years. He said 'Religion is simply using God's Word to try to justify your agenda' and he also said 'The Bible states, working out your salvation with fear and trambling, not love and grace!' It would seem that everything posted on this forum turns into someones chance to make a joke about someone else. Even those who should inspire turn into comedians. I just don't think God views holiness as something to be joked about, and neither will many people 60 secs into eternity. I am certain this post will be somehow turned into an object of derision, but that would be par for the AFF then wouldn't it? Love and prayers to all.
If you become like everyone else, there are no 'separate people'.
good post. thank you.
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by Todd
I have been gone for a while, but one hour back and I realize why I stayed gone. I am in Singapore and I heard a young man which most of you do not know or will ever hear. He is in my opinion wise beyond his years. He said 'Religion is simply using God's Word to try to justify your agenda' and he also said 'The Bible states, working out your salvation with fear and trambling, not love and grace!' It would seem that everything posted on this forum turns into someones chance to make a joke about someone else. Even those who should inspire turn into comedians. I just don't think God views holiness as something to be joked about, and neither will many people 60 secs into eternity. I am certain this post will be somehow turned into an object of derision, but that would be par for the AFF then wouldn't it? Love and prayers to all.
If you become like everyone else, there are no 'separate people'.
Todd, 60 seconds into eternity, most folks will realize that the Bible was right, and their flesh was wrong. By then, too late. Sadly, many preachers who yell that standards are no longer necessary will stand before God with blood on their hands, deceiving souls into Hell. I repent daily that i was ever involved with such as that for any length of time. I repent of listening to change agents, whose only true objective is to change the Apostolic church into a denominal church, even denying that which makes us His, salvation by grace through faith according to Acts 2:38.
God help us to stay away from the change agents who are working to destroy the work of God, and lead souls into Hell. Lord help us who have erred never to do so again. Lord help the church to call for repentance, discernment, and above all, holiness unto the Lord in all areas of life. This place has strong workers against holiness, but God has a people who are going to be His, even if they have failed more times than the economy.
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Bro. Price,
You are 100% correct. As someone who also was caught up in the 'winds of change' I can relate to all that you said. I would like to add one small footnote if I may, the most prevalent danger in the people of God today is silence. A silent preacher will also stand at the judgement with blood on his hands. The church is no place for a 'don't ask don't tell' policy. I was in a church for several years that did not scream change but they just did not say anything as the change was happening. It is like the frog in the water as it slowly heats up, he will not leave the water until it is too late. I myself, can only describe my situation as Naomi, I left full but I came home empty. I have many people that mean more to me than I could ever say that are still caught up in it. They genuinely feel that they are having revival, but if a sinner can come and sit on a pew without feeling a need for change, the church is failing. And when your young people see the absence of Godliness over and over, they will conform to it and even push the envelope further. I pray that you stay strong in the faith.
Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
Todd, 60 seconds into eternity, most folks will realize that the Bible was right, and their flesh was wrong. By then, too late. Sadly, many preachers who yell that standards are no longer necessary will stand before God with blood on their hands, deceiving souls into Hell. I repent daily that i was ever involved with such as that for any length of time. I repent of listening to change agents, whose only true objective is to change the Apostolic church into a denominal church, even denying that which makes us His, salvation by grace through faith according to Acts 2:38.
God help us to stay away from the change agents who are working to destroy the work of God, and lead souls into Hell. Lord help us who have erred never to do so again. Lord help the church to call for repentance, discernment, and above all, holiness unto the Lord in all areas of life. This place has strong workers against holiness, but God has a people who are going to be His, even if they have failed more times than the economy.
So, this is your agenda of the week, Bill? Seems it wasn't that long ago that you were putting the "standard preaching" preachers straight into a devil's hell!
Oh, wait, that's when you were anti-Oneness too.
Friendly reminder - if you're working thru your issues, that's your business, but you may want to be a little less vociferous about your positions until they're a bit more finalized.
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
Todd, 60 seconds into eternity, most folks will realize that the Bible was right, and their flesh was wrong. By then, too late. Sadly, many preachers who yell that standards are no longer necessary will stand before God with blood on their hands, deceiving souls into Hell. I repent daily that i was ever involved with such as that for any length of time. I repent of listening to change agents, whose only true objective is to change the Apostolic church into a denominal church, even denying that which makes us His, salvation by grace through faith according to Acts 2:38.
God help us to stay away from the change agents who are working to destroy the work of God, and lead souls into Hell. Lord help us who have erred never to do so again. Lord help the church to call for repentance, discernment, and above all, holiness unto the Lord in all areas of life. This place has strong workers against holiness, but God has a people who are going to be His, even if they have failed more times than the economy.
Isn't this what you say everytime the wind blows?
Of course, this is what you say 'today'. Tomorrow you will have something different to say.
What happened to that self imposed ban? Wasn't getting enough attention on the other forum?
Is this version 378 now?
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by Todd
Bro. Price,
You are 100% correct. As someone who also was caught up in the 'winds of change' I can relate to all that you said. I would like to add one small footnote if I may, the most prevalent danger in the people of God today is silence. A silent preacher will also stand at the judgement with blood on his hands. The church is no place for a 'don't ask don't tell' policy. I was in a church for several years that did not scream change but they just did not say anything as the change was happening. It is like the frog in the water as it slowly heats up, he will not leave the water until it is too late. I myself, can only describe my situation as Naomi, I left full but I came home empty. I have many people that mean more to me than I could ever say that are still caught up in it. They genuinely feel that they are having revival, but if a sinner can come and sit on a pew without feeling a need for change, the church is failing. And when your young people see the absence of Godliness over and over, they will conform to it and even push the envelope further. I pray that you stay strong in the faith.
Ah, that explains a lot...
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