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Old 03-21-2009, 05:24 PM
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UPCI charges 23% of missions giving

Is it better to give donations directly to missionaries. The UPCI charges 23% for overhead on donations. So if 4 million is collected this year for missions, they get 1 million to answer the phone. overhead seem high. can anyone explain this better to me.
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Is it better to give donations directly to missionaries. The UPCI charges 23% for overhead on donations. So if 4 million is collected this year for missions, they get 1 million to answer the phone. overhead seem high. can anyone explain this better to me.
Can you prove that?
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Is it better to give donations directly to missionaries. The UPCI charges 23% for overhead on donations. So if 4 million is collected this year for missions, they get 1 million to answer the phone. overhead seem high. can anyone explain this better to me.
That's hard to believe!!!
Where did you get this information??
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Is it better to give donations directly to missionaries. The UPCI charges 23% for overhead on donations. So if 4 million is collected this year for missions, they get 1 million to answer the phone. overhead seem high. can anyone explain this better to me.
I don't think anyone could possibly "explain" your figures until you disclose where you get the "23%" figure.

Seems like a post designed to get people to NOT support Foreign Missions, IMHO.
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Re: UPCI charges 23% of missions giving

I'm not "buying" this until the facts can be proven, and quite frankly, I don't think they can!
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That's hard to believe!!!
Where did you get this information??
Thank you, I'm still waiting myself.
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Is it better to give donations directly to missionaries. The UPCI charges 23% for overhead on donations. So if 4 million is collected this year for missions, they get 1 million to answer the phone. overhead seem high. can anyone explain this better to me.
I'm not UPC and I don't know what the handling fee is. 23 percent seems high.
Some of that might go toward a retirement fund, toward hospitalization and life insurance, or as with holding for taxes.
So it may not go to the missionary as cash but they do receive it as a benefit.

It is my understanding that if money is given directly to a missionary, it causes a tax problem with the government where the missionary is located. It is also my understanding that if a UPC missionary receives money directly, they have to report that to UPC headquarters and then what they receive from headquarters is reduced by the amount the missionary received directly.

Like I said, I am not UPC and do not know how the system works, but from what I've heard, there is a reason for the system being the way it is.

Someone like Sis. Alvear who knows some UPC missionaries would be in a better position to comment on this.

Let's not make this another "bash the UPC" thread.
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I don't think anyone could possibly "explain" your figures until you disclose where you get the "23%" figure.

Seems like a post designed to get people to NOT support Foreign Missions, IMHO.
Interesting point made here.

Still waiting for all that proof.
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I'm not "buying" this until the facts can be proven, and quite frankly, I don't think they can!

Facts where might those facts be?
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