No Double Dipping? General Board votes against ..

[SDG]

As more info on this filters down ... I am still curious to see what DB's role was in the passage of this last GB resolution.

In his last letter the Southern Texas District, he was the first leader of national stature to allude to formulating the legal basis for the argument against this type of double dipping.

He said, 'To fulfill this plan, the WPF will need to identify ministerial license in some way in order to qualify members, qualify officers, conduct votes, and enforce adherence to its Articles of Faith. However, the Manual of the UPCI states that its ministers cannot be licensed with another “organization or association” (Art. VII, Sec. 2, Par.)

I think he's defining license not as a card, per se... But in qualifying it's constituents.

If he was influential at this week's meeting ... it brings up a whole new set of questions and analysis of his role in the org in the last 15-20 years.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

I can confirm that this has been passed.
Members of the UPC will not be allowed to carry dual memberships.
This will be enforced by the District Boards.

But one can still fellowship and support and not the UPC events, they just can't carry a card.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

As more info on this filters down ... I am still curious to see what DB's role was in the passage of this last GB resolution.

In his last letter the Southern Texas District he was the first leader of national stature to allude to formulating the legal basis for the argument against this type of double dipping.

He said, 'To fulfill this plan, the WPF will need to identify ministerial license in some way in order to qualify members, qualify officers, conduct votes, and enforce adherence to its Articles of Faith. However, the Manual of the UPCI states that its ministers cannot be licensed with another “organization or association” (Art. VII, Sec. 2, Par.)

I think he's defining license not as a card, per se. But in qualifying it's constituents.

If he was influential at this week's meeting it brings up a whole new set of questions and analysis of his role in the org in the last 15-20 years.

Click here to read all of DB's January 21, 2008 letter.

[CC1]

There are two ways to view this event;

1. It will force men to leave the UPC who would have remained although part of the WWPF and some will see this as a disasterous mistake unneccesarily causing a "split".

2. It will be painful but is neccessary to maintain unity as those staying with the UPC but joining the WWPF are not happy with the UPC, it's direction, etc and will just continue to sow discord by not fully supporting UPC functions, etc.

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

The spirit of Thad is upon thee...

Luke 2:36 AFF Version

"And there was one Mrs LPW, a prophetess, a female poster of AFF, of the land of the North: she was of great spirit, and who lives to speak that which is true".

[SDG]

Originally Posted by CC1

There are two ways to view this event;

1. It will force men to leave the UPC who would have remained although part of the WWPF and some will see this ias a disasterous mistake unneccarily causing a "split".

2. It will be painful but is neccessary to maintain unity as those staying with the UPC but joining the WWPF are not happy with the UPC, it's direction, etc and will just continue to sow discord by not fully supporting UPC functions, etc.

Yeah, I don't get this aspect ... why legitimize the WPF even further? Between the letters coming from leadership and now this the UPCI is making the WPF bigger than what it is.

The war room needs to get it's act together.

[CC1]

Da,

Do you really want a bunch of men who are malcontent enough to hitch on to the WWPF hanging around to continue to gripe and moan about the UPC and boycott official functions, etc?

I think a case can be made for both perspectives.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by CC1

Da,

Do you really want a bunch of men who are malcontent enough to hitch on to the WWPF hanging around to continue to gripe and moan about the UPC and boycott official functions, etc?

I think a case can be made for both perspectives.

But herein lies the genius behind the way LB and his posse set this up ...

By staying they could still affect the political structure and form a coalition for "regression" to infiltrate the org ....

or force the UPCI's hand ... and legitimize their existence by making the org draw the lines for separation.

This is checkmate ... if this thing is enforced. They've been played.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

But one can still fellowship and support and not the UPC events, they just can't carry a card.

WH, does possessing a card mean one is licensed/qualified?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

WH, does possessing a card mean one is licensed/qualified?

No. But then there is no real standard of qualification necessary today....as is well demonstrated by some here.