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Old 10-30-2007, 09:06 AM
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The United Pentecostal Church is better off . . .

The resolution passed . . .

I won't forget the moment I heard the results of the vote . . .

I declared Hallelujah! Let the local assembly choose their what's best for them . . .

Instead of Rev. Immaginit who resides on the other side of the District or further . . .

I felt a moment of clarity . . .

Instead of the issue being put off and causing more conflict . . .

Finally there was a resolution to the resolution . . . (no pun intended)

There's no confusion here . . .

Only confusion that may exist is caused by one's own double-mindedness . . .

Yes, there may be consequences . . .

Those who leave will be better off . . .

As will the organization they leave . . .

Unity was called for . . . in the name of pro-ad ministers abandoning their convictions . . .

It's always the pro-ad or moderates who are supposed to capitulate to the right . . .

Now comes the “preferred” apostolic assembly of Tulsa . . .

Supposed great men are jumping ship from all areas of the US . . .

Will the UPCI lose 100? 500? 1000? Or more . . .

'Tis folly to leap from a perfectly floating ship . . .

Only sharks await in the waters below . . .

These “great” men will find something to disagree with each other on eventually . . .

They can't agree on much else than television and basic doctrine . . .

Amazing it took this long for RKS to come to this conclusion . . .

Too bad it's self-serving . . .

Too bad it requires the pro-ad ministers . . .

The moderates . . .

The ministers he doesn't agree with . . .

To back down . . .

To try and reverse the vote on Resolution 4 . . .

The UPCI will only suffer so long as the grand stagemasters remain . . .

Once the drama is ended . . .

Once these "great" few leave the organization . . .

Healing can and will begin . . .

And it won't be from a man . . .

Healing of this kind can and will only come from God . . .


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Old 10-30-2007, 09:16 AM
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I would also like to add that I have heard that the UPCI was going to go down in flames all of my life.

And I have heard the rebuttle from preachers who love truth and have given thier lives for this Gospel message, that the UPCI will not go down in flames.

HISTORY says that EVERY organization made by man will come to an ignoble end. This is the way of man.

Much like the rantings of the distruction of America, these rantings have no real value. No preacher has given prophesy that even comes close to the truth on the subject!

Will the UPCI end? I can say with certainty that yes it will one day not be what it currently is. That it will end. Why? because it was formed by men.

those that seek to create a new organization, will build one that will also end. and for the exact same reasons.

that aint prophesy that is understanding history and human nature.

people need to quit wringing thier hands and do their deal and stop pointing at others.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:20 AM
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I would also like to add that I have heard that the UPCI was going to go down in flames all of my life.

And I have heard the rebuttle from preachers who love truth and have given thier lives for this Gospel message, that the UPCI will not go down in flames.

HISTORY says that EVERY organization made by man will come to an ignoble end. This is the way of man.

Much like the rantings of the distruction of America, these rantings have no real value. No preacher has given prophesy that even comes close to the truth on the subject!

Will the UPCI end? I can say with certainty that yes it will one day not be what it currently is. That it will end. Why? because it was formed by men.

those that seek to create a new organization, will build one that will also end. and for the exact same reasons.

that aint prophesy that is understanding history and human nature.

people need to quit wringing thier hands and do their deal and stop pointing at others.
This is exactly right.

And this is why I refuse to villify men who want to belong to something like the UPC was when they became a part of it, not the UPC as it appears to be going.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:26 AM
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This is exactly right.

And this is why I refuse to villify men who want to belong to something like the UPC was when they became a part of it, not the UPC as it appears to be going.
we agree in the refusal to villify.

we do NOT agree on what the UPCI was when many of these men joined.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:29 AM
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we agree in the refusal to villify.

we do NOT agree on what the UPCI was when many of these men joined.

The strong anti-tv position has beenin place since the 1950's.

That predates the ministries of most, if not all these men.
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I would also like to add that I have heard that the UPCI was going to go down in flames all of my life.

And I have heard the rebuttle from preachers who love truth and have given thier lives for this Gospel message, that the UPCI will not go down in flames.

HISTORY says that EVERY organization made by man will come to an ignoble end. This is the way of man.

Much like the rantings of the distruction of America, these rantings have no real value. No preacher has given prophesy that even comes close to the truth on the subject!

Will the UPCI end? I can say with certainty that yes it will one day not be what it currently is. That it will end. Why? because it was formed by men.

those that seek to create a new organization, will build one that will also end. and for the exact same reasons.

that aint prophesy that is understanding history and human nature.

people need to quit wringing thier hands and do their deal and stop pointing at others.
Now here's a good post.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:41 AM
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I would also like to add that I have heard that the UPCI was going to go down in flames all of my life.

And I have heard the rebuttle from preachers who love truth and have given thier lives for this Gospel message, that the UPCI will not go down in flames.

HISTORY says that EVERY organization made by man will come to an ignoble end. This is the way of man.

Much like the rantings of the distruction of America, these rantings have no real value. No preacher has given prophesy that even comes close to the truth on the subject!

Will the UPCI end? I can say with certainty that yes it will one day not be what it currently is. That it will end. Why? because it was formed by men.

those that seek to create a new organization, will build one that will also end. and for the exact same reasons.

that aint prophesy that is understanding history and human nature.

people need to quit wringing thier hands and do their deal and stop pointing at others.
Not sure it will ever "end" per se. I hope not. I think it's still the most viable option at this point anyhow.

There are many denominations today that in spite of their struggles and "past glory" are still strong and ongoing.
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I believe that the greatest preachers are people we have never heard of. Maybe this will bring exposure to them.
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The UPCI is part of the Church and has its part to play in the overall scope of what God is doing in the world and His plan for the world as far as salvation of souls go. Whatever part the UPCI is playing in all of this will continue in regard to the overall picture of what God's plan, will and purpose is.

Of that I have no doubt.

After all, HE is still the One who's in control.
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