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11-11-2007, 03:10 PM
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very few large churches fit that description. I know some small ones that fit it more than large ones do.
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11-11-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller
very few large churches fit that description. I know some small ones that fit it more than large ones do.
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Thereby my caviat that most of those small churches don't end up growing. But there are some large churches who follow the script. Oh they sound good and look good...but they don't have very many people helping pray in the altar...again...SOME not most.
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11-11-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Thereby my caviat that most of those small churches don't end up growing. But there are some large churches who follow the script. Oh they sound good and look good...but they don't have very many people helping pray in the altar...again...SOME not most.
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There is another thread going now about church numbers and all, but one thing I have noticed in my 20 years+ in the UPC, they probably have lost more people than they win. If these kinds of statistics are kept, I bet the existing church is but a thumbnail compared to those who have came in, got converted then left.
Keeping from losing people is sometimes more vital than getting them in the first place.
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11-11-2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
There is another thread going now about church numbers and all, but one thing I have noticed in my 20 years+ in the UPC, they probably have lost more people than they win. If these kinds of statistics are kept, I bet the existing church is but a thumbnail compared to those who have came in, got converted then left.
Keeping from losing people is sometimes more vital than getting them in the first place.
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That revolving door can be a killer sometimes...if there is "growth" but the avg. stays the same...is it growth?
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08-08-2009, 08:48 PM
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Re: **NORTH DAKOTA** Have you heard???????@@@@
I've discovered the less untrained help at the altar the greater the chance at success. I'm not just talking about Holy Ghost baptism.
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Thereby my caviat that most of those small churches don't end up growing. But there are some large churches who follow the script. Oh they sound good and look good...but they don't have very many people helping pray in the altar...again...SOME not most.
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01-29-2008, 09:31 AM
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Re: **NORTH DAKOTA** Have you heard???????@@@@
Both of these Brothers mentioned in this thread are great men of God! They have stood for truth and the old paths for years. I personally know of the sacrifices these brethern have made during their life time to preach the word of God. If you are looking for someone related to these men, it's me. Both of these men are my uncles and I am proud (with a Godly pride) of them! Bro. Walters and Bro. Thurston will stand in judgement against some of our "so called" preachers who are only in it for prestige and offerings.
Last edited by kaymammy; 01-29-2008 at 09:33 AM.
Reason: Did not mention names.
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05-05-2009, 02:35 PM
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Re: **NORTH DAKOTA** Have you heard???????@@@@
According to the UPCI online directory there are still 14 churches in ND.
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05-08-2009, 10:23 PM
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Re: **NORTH DAKOTA** Have you heard???????@@@@
RE relatives of David Walters, I don't recall the how but he is related to Bro Thurston in SD. (both are from MI )
The Walters have been in ND since 1969 and had 4 daughters.
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08-08-2009, 01:51 PM
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Re: **NORTH DAKOTA** Have you heard???????@@@@
Any one know Bro. Miller in Fargo? I used to attend his church back in the late 90s. Its a very, very cold place!
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08-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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Re: **NORTH DAKOTA** Have you heard???????@@@@
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Any one know Bro. Miller in Fargo? I used to attend his church back in the late 90s. Its a very, very cold place!
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The church or ND?
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