Sabbath and bible feasts

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I just got on lunch and was about to post the exact same scripture!!!!

Great minds

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Great minds

Dont insult Esias like that. 🤣

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I saw two videos, a month apart, he had the same shirt. Obviously heretical. Right?

Seriously though, I can't find a command in Scripture that directs us to dress a certain way for church, beyond modesty issues. I do however see this:

James 2:1-4 KJV
My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. [2] For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; [3] And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: [4] Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

That verse is obviously a situation of wealth, not of honoring or respect to the event happening. I don't think dressing formally, according to the culture, is a wealth issue. Even in very poor countries, even the one I came front, long sleeve shirts and dress pants were available, and people had the mercy to sometimes give it away to those that couldn't even afford that and wanted to come formally presentable to the convocation.

The other aspect of this is mercy. Mercy on new converts, mercy on visitors, and mercy on the poor. Mercy triumphs over all that clothing stuff, but I don't think this is a mercy issue the one we are talking about.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by coksiw

That verse is obviously a situation of wealth, not of honoring or respect to the event happening. I don't think dressing formally, according to the culture, is a wealth issue. Even in very poor countries, even the one I came front, long sleeve shirts and dress pants were available, and people had the mercy to sometimes give it away to those that couldn't even afford that and wanted to come formally presentable to the convocation.

The other aspect of this is mercy. Mercy on new converts, mercy on visitors, and mercy on the poor. Mercy triumphs over all that clothing stuff, but I don't think this is a mercy issue the one we are talking about.

If you look through religious history you will find that styles have ebbed and flowed over the years. At one point if you "dressed up" they would have kicked you out if you were roo "fancy".


Ive found that the origins of "dressing up" was more about making people comfortable with wealth desparity in a congregation by getting everyone to dress the same.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

If you look through religious history you will find that styles have ebbed and flowed over the years. At one point if you "dressed up" they would have kicked you out if you were roo "fancy".


Ive found that the origins of "dressing up" was more about making people comfortable with wealth desparity in a congregation by getting everyone to dress the same.

So, if you are a leader in your congregation, with the authority to make those kinds of decisions, how would you show up to teach in the holy convocation event? at what point would you ask someone else you allow to stand and preach that the way that person is dressed is unacceptable?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by coksiw

So, if you are a leader in your congregation, with the authority to make those kinds of decisions, how would you show up to teach in the holy convocation event? at what point would you ask someone else you allow to stand and preach that the way that person is dressed is unacceptable?

Church was designed for house to house meetings...man decided to go back to building temples. So now we not only have set and setting but now we gotta have proper costumes



As long as what is being worn is modest I really wouldnt care what they wore.


I want God to minister wherever there is a need and willing heart.


You start drawing boundaries limiting how and when He can do his work and you just end up making mountains of mishnas.


What about you?


Do you think that ones dress hinders God from moving or is it an offense to our man made culture and rules that offends US instead of Him?


What Im seeing my friend, is that its US that has the problem over rules that we ourselves have made, not God.


We project our offense in our self created righteousness and think that God does/must hold the same opinion ...the same God who walked the Earth and washed dusty, dirty,bleeding, feces covered feet and you think He has a problem with a short sleeved shirt?


He literally let a woman He met at a well who could have been a prostitute go before Him as an evangelist into Samaria declaring His works?


His cousin, John The Baptist certainly wasnt much on dressing up either except in Camel Hair chic.


If your people arent taking you seriously except you preach in "proper" attire, what are you preaching???


Ive seen all the back and forth arguments about wearing this or that.


Ive seen writings from old time holiness preachers where probably none of us would pass muster by their standards.


It grieves me that people can be so loudly adamant and certain that their mishna is the molehill to die on and the next group or generation will be just as certain about something else

[diakonos]

Uhh… In our present culture dressing up is vanishing. Has been for 20 years or so.

[good samaritan]

All the while sinners see christians squabble over things that Christ did not teach.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

All the while sinners see christians squabble over things that Christ did not teach.

Yep.

[Esaias]

Honestly, I didn't see where the guy's shirt wasn't tucked in.

I also don't see any problem with how he's dressed. I certainly wouldn't spend my time focusing on how he's dressed instead of on what he's trying to say. He's not dressed like a clown with flip flops, Birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and a Hawaiian shirt.

But maybe that's just me?