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05-20-2008, 01:18 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
Women can be feminine without being a feminist. But in THE CHURCH men are the determining factor according to scripture. If he is loving his wife as Christ loves the church, then his wife feels secure and safe, and doesn't have to go outside the marriage. Likewise if wives are under submission to God, then her husband, her husband is secure in the knowledge that he is the head of the family. These are not roles we are to assume, they are commandments of God.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-20-2008, 01:21 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Women can be feminine without being a feminist. But in THE CHURCH men are the determining factor according to scripture. If he is loving his wife as Christ loves the church, then his wife feels secure and safe, and doesn't have to go outside the marriage. Likewise if wives are under submission to God, then her husband, her husband is secure in the knowledge that he is the head of the family. These are not roles we are to assume, they are commandments of God.
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Amen!
I remember before I got married, my dad would give me the father/daughter talks. I would always frown at the wife's role as the one submitting. My dad always taught me that if a husband will love his wife as Christ loves the church, the woman shouldn't have any problem submitting. I now agree. lol
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05-20-2008, 01:24 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
The WAR AGAINST BOYS: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men
by Christina Hoff Sommers
is a great book written from a non-religious point of view focusing in primarily on our educational system
It documents the repercussions this is having on our society,
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05-20-2008, 01:32 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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The WAR AGAINST BOYS: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men (
by Christina Hoff Sommers
is a great book written from a non-religious point of view focusing in primarily on our educational system
It documents the repercussions this is having on our society,
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One of the things I have been doing with my 14 year old is watching movies with him. Movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, We were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Patriot, etc. After the movie we talk about the roll that the man played and the men we admired and why. We talk about the sacrifices a real man will make and how a coward only cares for his own life.
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05-20-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
The WAR AGAINST BOYS: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men (
by Christina Hoff Sommers
is a great book written from a non-religious point of view focusing in primarily on our educational system
It documents the repercussions this is having on our society,
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This post reminded me of the book Jim Yohe wrote about homosexuality. It was about how mothers can have a negative influence on boys. I can see how feminism is definitely harming our young men.
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05-20-2008, 01:44 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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One of the things I have been doing with my 14 year old is watching movies with him. Movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, We were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Patriot, etc. After the movie we talk about the roll that the man played and the men we admired and why. We talk about the sacrifices a real man will make and how a coward only cares for his own life.
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I'm glad you posted this. I think I will stop complaining about my husband allowing our son to watch war movies. I always think about the violent content but you have a point. I'm going to have to think about this.
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05-20-2008, 01:48 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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One of the things I have been doing with my 14 year old is watching movies with him. Movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, We were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Patriot, etc. After the movie we talk about the roll that the man played and the men we admired and why. We talk about the sacrifices a real man will make and how a coward only cares for his own life.
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Not sure the ultra-cons would agree with your choice of medium LOL.
However the concept is great.
I believe this is what was done for generations before ours, sitting around the campfire carrying on an oral tradition of tales of bravery and selfless sacrifice.
It was as much role modeling as entertainment.
Our entertainment (read Hollywood) makes it a point to portray the male, especially the father figure as a buffoon.
Even in the Freddy Kruger type movies it is the teenage GIRL that is the hero.
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05-20-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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I'm glad you posted this. I think I will stop complaining about my husband allowing our son to watch war movies. I always think about the violent content but you have a point. I'm going to have to think about this.
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I don't think glorifying violence is a good thing but I think boys need to learn how to become men. Another great book is Wild at Heart. When my son turned 12 I bought him a sword with our family motto engraved on it in Latin which translated is "Do right and fear no man." boys don't become men by accident they have to learn it.
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05-20-2008, 01:50 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
One of the things I have been doing with my 14 year old is watching movies with him. Movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, We were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Patriot, etc. After the movie we talk about the roll that the man played and the men we admired and why. We talk about the sacrifices a real man will make and how a coward only cares for his own life.
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AMEN!!!! What an excellent way to teach your child. And not only physically, but emotionally as well.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-20-2008, 01:51 PM
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Re: The Emasculating of Men and Masculation of Wom
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Women are increasingly independent, not a bad thing at all in and of itself.
But with the independence also comes a price.
Women are now more likely than ever to choose to have a child and start a family without a husband.
Married women are now more likely than ever to be the ones having the affair. A phenomena documented by social scientists over the past couple of decades.
While the “polls’ conducted by such venerable institutions as Redbook, and Cosmo would the public believe that half of all Americans are swingers, the less than titillating truth is the majority of men (and women) don’t cheat on their spouses.
Accurate numbers are difficult for many reasons, even things like a male’s tendency to exaggerate their "exploits" and a female’s to minimize theirs.
Nonetheless a trend is a trend. And women in our society are picking up more “male” traits for example:
Violent and sexual behavior among our preteen and teen boys have stabilized but those behaviors among our preteen and teen girls (while still much less than boys) have increased 200-300% over the past decade.
What else can be expected in a society that systematically emasculates the males?
One of the traits of a true man was to protect the virtue of a woman. By trying to curb what the feminists call the male aggression factor they are also suppressing a few of the things that make REAL men worth having around. Like Nobility and Chivalry.
But even on this forum at times there are shades of who needs a man.
(Happy Rhoni? Thread started)

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I think Media has a lot to do with this. Our permissiveness also has a lot. Women's lib was one thing....women's lib ran by a bunch of men hating butches was another
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