Apostolic Study Bible

[PastorTLArt]

Originally Posted by Sam

What Study Bible did you buy?
What do you like about it?

I have several study Bibles.
I have the
MacArthur Study Bible (John MacArthur)
Prophecy Study Bible (John Hagee)
1599 Geneva Study Bible (not really a study Bible but has lots of notes in it)
Spirit Filled Life Bible (Jack Hayford, General Editor)

I recently purchased the Life In The Spirit Study Bible for my wife

I have recommended both the Spirit Filled Life Bible and the Life in the Spirit Study Bible to people and have given away copies of both.

I recently bought the American Patriot's Bible. I have so many study bibles in my library that the list could take up a whole thread lol.

the APB isnt so much a study bible as it is just a great bible that relates to the spirit of patriotism in me as a citizen of this great and blessed nation.

[Falla39]

There are Bible studies and there are Bible studies! Then there are the things that the HOLY GHOST teaches!

John 14:26
But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 Cor. 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

There are those who have a teachable spirit, and there are those you can't tell or teach much, and some you can't teach or tell anything!

Not to be offensive, but endeavoring to speak the truth in love! The love of God shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Ghost! Rom. 5:5

Many in many churches read the Bible, but without the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit to open their understanding, they cannot understand the things of the Spirit. Those are the things which the Holy Ghost teaches.

If the Holy Ghost/Spirit, same thing, was not important, there would be no reason for Jesus to go to the cross and die. GOD had a plan for the redemption of mankind. It was not to STOP with the message and baptism of John the Baptist. That was only to prepare the people that there was ONE coming after John, and HE would baptize them with the HOLY GHOST and Fire.

My best friend in school went to the local A of G church. She married the pastor's son. I graduated with both of them over fifty years ago. I visited her church a few times with her as we lived around the corner from the A of G church. That was before my late father began the church we still attend with three generations of our family. This is not counting my husband of almost 50 years, (will be next month), and I.
My friend explained when I visited with her, that the people at the alter were getting saved. Then they would get baptized and get the power if they wanted it. Today they are members of the large B------ church in our city.

When the Holy Spirit comes in, there will be a sign that the Spirit has made a connection with that person. I cannot understand why a person would argue that you don't have to speak with tongues. You don't have to, but if you want/desire to receive the Spirit, you will seek HIM with your whole heart. Having observed and been in the church all of my 71 yrs, I have observed those who did not receive the Holy Ghost, but claimed they had it, and there is a marked difference in those who did and those who didn't speak in tongues, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THE UTTERENCE!! Why not be open, and have a teachable spirit and receive ALL that GOD has for us. I received the Holy Ghost at 18 yrs, 53 yrs ago this summer. I still hunger for more of HIM! So many stop short of the greatest experience GOD has for mankind.

A person may received the Holy Spirit and like an infant, that is not fed, die spiritually. Babies seem to be born hungry. So should the newborn infant desire the sincere milk of the Word that it should grow there. Paul taught on that. Then later, if a person does not walk in the Spirit, you will see the fulfilling of the flesh. It's what spirit that is fed the most. The human spirit or the Holy Spirit.

Falla39

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Falla39

There are Bible studies and there are Bible studies! Then there are the things that the HOLY GHOST teaches!

John 14:26
But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 Cor. 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

There are those who have a teachable spirit, and there are those you can't tell or teach much, and some you can't teach or tell anything!

Not to be offensive, but endeavoring to speak the truth in love! The love of God shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Ghost! Rom. 5:5

Many in many churches read the Bible, but without the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit to open their understanding, they cannot understand the things of the Spirit. Those are the things which the Holy Ghost teaches.

If the Holy Ghost/Spirit, same thing, was not important, there would be no reason for Jesus to go to the cross and die. GOD had a plan for the redemption of mankind. It was not to STOP with the message and baptism of John the Baptist. That was only to prepare the people that there was ONE coming after John, and HE would baptize them with the HOLY GHOST and Fire.

My best friend in school went to the local A of G church. She married the pastor's son. I graduated with both of them over fifty years ago. I visited her church a few times with her as we lived around the corner from the A of G church. That was before my late father began the church we still attend with three generations of our family. This is not counting my husband of almost 50 years, (will be next month), and I.
My friend explained when I visited with her, that the people at the alter were getting saved. Then they would get baptized and get the power if they wanted it. Today they are members of the large B------ church in our city.

When the Holy Spirit comes in, there will be a sign that the Spirit has made a connection with that person. I cannot understand why a person would argue that you don't have to speak with tongues. You don't have to, but if you want/desire to receive the Spirit, you will seek HIM with your whole heart. Having observed and been in the church all of my 71 yrs, I have observed those who did not receive the Holy Ghost, but claimed they had it, and there is a marked difference in those who did and those who didn't speak in tongues, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THE UTTERENCE!! Why not be open, and have a teachable spirit and receive ALL that GOD has for us. I received the Holy Ghost at 18 yrs, 53 yrs ago this summer. I still hunger for more of HIM! So many stop short of the greatest experience GOD has for mankind.

A person may received the Holy Spirit and like an infant, that is not fed, die spiritually. Babies seem to be born hungry. So should the newborn infant desire the sincere milk of the Word that it should grow there. Paul taught on that. Then later, if a person does not walk in the Spirit, you will see the fulfilling of the flesh. It's what spirit that is fed the most. The human spirit or the Holy Spirit.

Falla39

im not against the Holy ghost falla im just against the initial evidence doctrine that we must speak with tounges to be saved falla
there is a woman falla, who is not pentacostal, as far as i know doesnt speak with tounges, but goes around in different places and showes the Jesus Film.

after words they bring out the deaf people, she sticks her fingers in their ears and they hear.

your caught up looking for a sign. I have seen people just as devoted to God who have never spoke in tounges, who worship and praise Him the same. shrug maybe you need to get out more.

The fact is Not everyone in the book of acts is recorded speaking in tounges.
Not only that i see people come time and time again and again falla to the alter begging and pleading in tounges. but never speak it. After awhile they leave. They think God doesnt love them.

There is to many holes in the initial evidence doctrine. Not even william symour preached it like upci does today.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by acerrak

im not against the Holy ghost falla im just against the initial evidence doctrine that we must speak with tounges to be saved falla
there is a woman falla, who is not pentacostal, as far as i know doesnt speak with tounges, but goes around in different places and showes the Jesus Film.

after words they bring out the deaf people, she sticks her fingers in their ears and they hear.

your caught up looking for a sign. I have seen people just as devoted to God who have never spoke in tounges, who worship and praise Him the same. shrug maybe you need to get out more.

The fact is Not everyone in the book of acts is recorded speaking in tounges.
Not only that i see people come time and time again and again falla to the alter begging and pleading in tounges. but never speak it. After awhile they leave. They think God doesnt love them.

There is to many holes in the initial evidence doctrine. Not even william symour preached it like upci does today.

Acerrak,

Have you ever spoken in tongues, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THE UTTERANCE?

Falla39

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Acerrak,

Have you ever spoken in tongues, AS THE SPIRIT GAVE THE UTTERANCE?

Falla39

I had the privelage of growing up outside the apostolic church.
I was a very self centered man, who was addicted to many things. My marriage was being torn apart, i even had a past suicide attempt.

My brother went to a doctor for his back, had a disc out. Doctor looked at Him basically said he doesnt know how he is walking or moving. Not because of his back, but because of his heart.

His heart was in such a condition that The doctor compared him to being on life support. So surgery was set. The doctor told him the chance of you surviving this isnt good.

stuff like this wrecks your world, a bad back goes into heart problems. So us being sinners, got ahold of religious folk. To pray for him and everything.

He said im gonna go to church sunday, and he was sorta scared and i told him i would go with him.

We went to a trinitarian charasmatic church of God. The message was about the Lost sheep. How God seeks out the Lost sheep, picks them up and puts them on His shoulder and brings them Home.

we both fell under conviction and we both went to the alter and prayed.
That little trip to the alter Killed addictions that have had a hold of my life for almost 7+ years. I didnt speak in tounges. I didnt run around the isles. I shed some tears and prayed.


From that moment on. I started reading the bible, started praying, and got my family in church as well. Still no tounges. Later i would get envolved in ministry, and teach But no tounges.

I didnt speak in tounges untill i started praying for the gifts of the Spirit to start working in my life, Since then i have spoken in tounges interepreted tounges, Prophesied, layed hands on the sick. But none of it was my doing it was the Spirit.

I had the Spirit since i came to the alter. Problem with pentacostals is this initial evidence doctrine didnt pop up till the 1900's and while i agree the some people do speak with tounges, Not all do. and to say they all do is not biblical.

even paul stated does all speak with tounges. with a rhetoric No.
The problem is no one wants to see the fruit they all wait at the alter for the "sign" ok you spoke something dont know what it was but you got the Holy Ghost.

I have seen people filled with the Spirit and Not speak with tounges, watch them take off dancing shouting GLORY GLORY GLORY. But again the denomination like the upci will tell you, yes you may had a experience but we want it to be about this experience.

UPCI Quote.. UNless you have recieved the Holy Ghost and experienced Speaking in tounges as the Spirit has given utterance, then you are Not saved.

Now find that for me in the bible fella. <- proove the scripture.

Did you know that ephesians 2:8-9 the word Gift in it is charisma, the gift of God is eternal life. its the same word describing the gifts (charisma) of the Spirit.

Tounges are a gift of the Spirit, just like faith, prophesies, etc. Problem is we have isolated one Gift and stated it must be this one, and if it doesnt happen then your still a carnal minded man.

The people on the day of pentacost spoke in languages other people can understand. People could hear them in their native tounges. I however have no clue what people speak today.

Paul when describing the gifts of the Spirit, said we speak mysteries in the Spirit, we speak in the language of men and angels. Sister this was describing the Gift of the Spirit. The gift of tounges.

If it was like the day of pentacost when a person spoke in tounges, the spanish people sitiing in the church should hear them praise God in spanish, so its not the same Cloven fire tounges that they recieved. its the Gift of tounges. Since it is a gift of tounges we dont need to make a initial evidence doctrine out of it.

[seekerman]

Sigh. If everyone simply agreed with me we wouldn't have these divisions!!

[Falla39]

Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

Falla39

[houston]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

Falla39

So because he disagrees with you he's following man's way???? This is a pattern of yours. You disagree with someone, but rather than discuss the point of contention you post a scripture that is condemning to the person that you disagree with. Then when the person that you targeted responds to you, you say that you weren't posting against the person, you were making something like a generalization. Many don't agree with you. Maybe you are on the path that is right in your own eyes. The beautiful thing about that is, man always believes he is following God.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by houston

So because he disagrees with you he's following man's way???? This is a pattern of yours. You disagree with someone, but rather than discuss the point of contention you post a scripture that is condemning to the person that you disagree with. Then when the person that you targeted responds to you, you say that you weren't posting against the person, you were making something like a generalization. Many don't agree with you. Maybe you are on the path that is right in your own eyes. The beautiful thing about that is, man always believes he is following God.

nice you predicted the response. and was right

[Falla39]

Houston,
I am not condemning anyone. Just posted a scripture. Who are you trying
to condemn!