We're losing it. - Page 2

Michael The Disciple · #1 09-30-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

So what exactly is the "true standard of obedience" and how does a person know if they've reached it? And, are the people of Peru more holy?

The only standard:

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48

Until we understand that we will never understand the kingdom of God. Its not about "America".

Wherever a Christian is they must come out of the world and into kingdom obedience. Come out "from" and come "into".

The true intimacy with God that the believer looks for is found HERE.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 1 John 2:5

Want PERFECT LOVE with God? The apostle tells us how to have it!

MarieA27 · #2 10-01-2013, 11:25 AM

If you are truly honest with your soul, and you have no known sin in your life, and you're living righteously, doing all that you know to do that is right, obeying all that you know to obey honestly, how can you not be sure? You just have to judge yourself correctly, like the word says, judge yourself, and you will not be judged. If you judged yourself correctly and honestly by the word in this life, you'll know. There shouldn't be any doubt, or second guessing. When Paul was heading to the grave, he knew that he was going to go to heaven after he passed, and he said that all who love the Lord's appearing would know too... (paraphrasing)

Michael The Disciple · #3 10-01-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieA27

If you are truly honest with your soul, and you have no known sin in your life, and you're living righteously, doing all that you know to do that is right, obeying all that you know to obey honestly, how can you not be sure? You just have to judge yourself correctly, like the word says, judge yourself, and you will not be judged. If you judged yourself correctly and honestly by the word in this life, you'll know. There shouldn't be any doubt, or second guessing. When Paul was heading to the grave, he knew that he was going to go to heaven after he passed, and he said that all who love the Lord's appearing would know too... (paraphrasing)

So sound. So easy to understand.

Rudy · #4 10-01-2013, 12:48 PM

Let's not forget we are made righteous because of what Christ has done.

Michael The Disciple · #5 10-01-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy

Let's not forget we are made righteous because of what Christ has done.

Yes I think every Christian knows that. What we have forgotten is that only those who actually DO RIGHTEOUSNESS are righteous before God.

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 1 John 3:7

We are supposed to be righteous EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.

That just means we are supposed to be righteous even as Jesus is righteous.

THIS is the real problem among believers. They are not being taught TO BE LIKE JESUS!

Lafon · #6 10-04-2013, 06:29 AM

More than 2,500 years ago a prophet of God named Zechariah was given visions which portrayed the spiritual condition of the society of mankind inhabiting the earth in the last days. These visions were described through various symbols, as noted in Zechariah Chapter Six wherein various colored horses (which represented spirits emanating from the throne of God in the invisible heavens) being dispatched into various regions of the earth. To properly comprehend the spiritual condition of the peoples residing in the northern hemisphere of the earth, I think one must consider that which we're told about those horses (spirits) that would be sent into this region:

"Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country." (Zechariah 6:8, KJV)

Ever wonder why missionaries who deliver the gospel in the southern regions of the world report such greater success in their efforts to the inhabitants there to be saved than do those who preach the gospel in the northern hemisphere? Could it be because those who live in the "south country," a region of the world we commonly refer to as the "third world" nations, are more receptive to the gospel message than we who reside in the more prosperous "north country"? Just saying.....

A "One God Apostolic Pentecostal" preacher delivering the good news of the gospel in any of the 3rd World nations, generally report converts numbering in the hundreds or even thousands. Yet, when that same preacher delivers that same message to the peoples living in the "north country" are often hard pressed to realize only a "handful." Why the difference? Could it be because the peoples of the "north country" (where the Spirit has been quieted by a more abundant prosperity) think of themselves as being self-sufficient, and who are more highly educated, believe that they do not need God? Just saying.....

Esaias · #7 10-04-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lafon

More than 2,500 years ago a prophet of God named Zechariah was given visions which portrayed the spiritual condition of the society of mankind inhabiting the earth in the last days. These visions were described through various symbols, as noted in Zechariah Chapter Six wherein various colored horses (which represented spirits emanating from the throne of God in the invisible heavens) being dispatched into various regions of the earth. To properly comprehend the spiritual condition of the peoples residing in the northern hemisphere of the earth, I think one must consider that which we're told about those horses (spirits) that would be sent into this region:

"Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country." (Zechariah 6:8, KJV)

Ever wonder why missionaries who deliver the gospel in the southern regions of the world report such greater success in their efforts to the inhabitants there to be saved than do those who preach the gospel in the northern hemisphere? Could it be because those who live in the "south country," a region of the world we commonly refer to as the "third world" nations, are more receptive to the gospel message than we who reside in the more prosperous "north country"? Just saying.....

A "One God Apostolic Pentecostal" preacher delivering the good news of the gospel in any of the 3rd World nations, generally report converts numbering in the hundreds or even thousands. Yet, when that same preacher delivers that same message to the peoples living in the "north country" are often hard pressed to realize only a "handful." Why the difference? Could it be because the peoples of the "north country" (where the Spirit has been quieted by a more abundant prosperity) think of themselves as being self-sufficient, and who are more highly educated, believe that they do not need God? Just saying.....

Affluence and prosperity generally lead to a hardening of people's hearts against the gospel. At least that's what it seems like.

Also, the third world societies are not as inundated with 1)non-stop mass media programming resulting in near-comatose mental states being the norm in society, and 2)utterly failed 'public education' systems designed to destroy what culture and society is left.

ILG · #8 10-05-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Affluence and prosperity generally lead to a hardening of people's hearts against the gospel. At least that's what it seems like.

Also, the third world societies are not as inundated with 1)non-stop mass media programming resulting in near-comatose mental states being the norm in society, and 2)utterly failed 'public education' systems designed to destroy what culture and society is left.

I don't disagree with that. But if this is what the preacher was talking about, maybe he should have spelled it out a bit. "We're losing it. Come out of Babylon". I had no idea what he was trying to say.

Rudy · #9 10-04-2013, 10:32 AM

Interesting Lafon.

thephnxman · #10 05-12-2022, 10:18 PM

"...how to come out of Babylon (the Confusion)...?

I beseech you, brethren, by the NAME of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you ALL speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that you ALL be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."

The salvation of the whole world has been enclosed in one NAME, Jesus: For there is none other NAME under heaven, given among men., whereby we must be saved." It is NOT the name of your church, your denomination, or your religion; nor is it found in the name of you apostle, prophet, or any spiritual leader. We are to be washed by the blood of God's son, in repentance, and we are then offered the Promise of salvation: He that believes AND is baptized SHALL BE saved...; then, "Whosoever calls upon the NAME of the Lord SHALL BE saved...; again: "...baptizing them in the NAME of the Jesus Christ for ther remission of sins and you SHALL RECEIVE the gift of the Holy Spirit; for the PROMISE is unto you, and to your children...".
Our sins are remitted by the blood of "...the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world...", but the blood is applied in the NAME of the Lord!
If you believe the above declarations, you do well; if you do not, you remain in your confusion...in Babylon!