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03-03-2007, 12:37 PM
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Sorry. Bishops and Elders are the husbands of ONE WIFE. Only liberal Episcopalean types could allow a woman to be bishop, as she would have to be a lesbian, and they would have to define her lesbian relationship as a marriage. Both are ungodly. So, no, a woman cannot be a bishop.
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03-03-2007, 12:40 PM
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Bishop comes from the Greek word episkopos (επίσκοπος, from επι "over" and σκοπος "seeing"). It can be generally translated bishop, overseer, superintendent, supervisor, the first, leader or foreman. From the word episkopos are derived the English words episcopacy, episcopate and episcopal.
A few years back, I sat in a business meeting, in which a resolution was brought to the floor, to define this word "Bishop". A couple of leaders did not like that this term was being directed at a particular person. The argument was made that only a select few should be honored with this term. The resolution failed to garner enough support.
I know various denominations use this word differently but ...
What does it mean to you?
What does the bible teach us about this word?
Can females be bishops?
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Bible titles are underused. This is really just passed on traditions from previous denominations. It's funny...that we "pride" ourselves on being biblical and avoiding non-biblical language and yet can't call people Bishops, Elders, Prophets, Presbyters, Apostles or Teachers....all we got are Pastors and Evangelists (locally). While we do call certain people presbyters I think it's being misused there. And where is General Superintendent in the bible?
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03-03-2007, 12:47 PM
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Sorry. Bishops and Elders are the husbands of ONE WIFE. Only liberal Episcopalean types could allow a woman to be bishop, as she would have to be a lesbian, and they would have to define her lesbian relationship as a marriage. Both are ungodly. So, no, a woman cannot be a bishop.
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In reality, the original language points to the Bishop being at one with his wife. Not the husband of one wife. Oh how that changes the amount of men qualified for such a position.
If it truly meant the husband of one wife, you'd have to take it exactly literally and that means any man who has been married more than once, regardless of whether the first marriage was ended by death, could not be a Bishop.
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03-03-2007, 12:57 PM
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In reality, the original language points to the Bishop being at one with his wife.
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First time I've ever heard this!
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03-03-2007, 01:00 PM
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In reality, the original language points to the Bishop being at one with his wife. Not the husband of one wife. Oh how that changes the amount of men qualified for such a position.
If it truly meant the husband of one wife, you'd have to take it exactly literally and that means any man who has been married more than once, regardless of whether the first marriage was ended by death, could not be a Bishop.
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Ron ...very interesting and logical points ... what evidence do you have for this translation?
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03-03-2007, 01:10 PM
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Would a missionary like Nona Freeman be considered a BISHOP???
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Originally Posted by Brett Prince
Sorry. Bishops and Elders are the husbands of ONE WIFE. Only liberal Episcopalean types could allow a woman to be bishop, as she would have to be a lesbian, and they would have to define her lesbian relationship as a marriage. Both are ungodly. So, no, a woman cannot be a bishop.
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Can you elaborate on your feeling of a missionary who is a woman then?
Sis Freeman is a good example, Sis Else Lund (who never married) is another. What of a man who never married, is he then disqualified to be a Bishop?
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03-03-2007, 01:27 PM
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Bible titles are underused. This is really just passed on traditions from previous denominations. It's funny...that we "pride" ourselves on being biblical and avoiding non-biblical language and yet can't call people Bishops, Elders, Prophets, Presbyters, Apostles or Teachers....all we got are Pastors and Evangelists (locally). While we do call certain people presbyters I think it's being misused there. And where is General Superintendent in the bible?
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Bishop Praxeus ... perhaps because a business corporate model has replaced Apostolic church gov't?
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03-03-2007, 01:29 PM
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Praxeus ... perhaps because a business corporate model has replace Apostolic church gov't?
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You have a point. I never heard the terms: "Bishop" or "Elder" until my daughter married a young man from an ALJC church. I still don't truly understand the distinctions.
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It's been my experience that the title 'BISHOP' means little, if anything. The only Bishop that I have known, was never used to anything in the church, and his advice was NEVER appreciated, nor taken. He was pastor Emeritus- whatever THAT means. He sits in a pew along with everyone else, and stays in his own corner...
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