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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
If the blind leads the blind they all will end up in the middle of the freeway.
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tv1a, I'm done with this issue I was just stating what I had noticed in your post. It's done now. I will not further respond to you regarding the subject.
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09-02-2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
The word Liberal has a dirty sound to it because most of us associate it with things we disagree with in politics and religion. It really just means you are open minded and willing to go against tradition and orthodoxy. It can even mean specifically to be giving or generous. As used here, it is simply a general label to refer to people who do not take as strong of a stand on what many would call "standards". Apostolic "liberals" would still be radical conservatives in most other circles. lol.
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11-06-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Back to the original question.
The tulsa six has the right to tango in whatever manner they decide. The rest of us have the right to our own opinions based on the information provided.
If these men were members of a congregation who initiated a church split, we would be all over them as agents of satan. Since they are preachers, they get a free pass when they cause division and discord. The same devils used to call dissention and discord in local church splits are the same devils used to cause a rift in the organization. Scripture has plenty to say about their attitudes. None of it good...
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If we feel the church we go to does not fulfill Gods purpose within us. Then we are only kidding ourselves and God expect us to have a back bone.
WE need to be striving toward the mark of the high calling not going down stream with the dead fish.
We answer to GOD not Man
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07-04-2014, 07:42 AM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
I find the division I have seen and that I am seeing as rather disheartening. I serve under the leadership of a highly anointed ministry in an independent church. I have witnessed their walks with God and have never found fault. I uphold standards, just as they teach - in love might I add.
Recently I have been shunned from being friends with members of the WPF because of "what I am." I didn't understand why, and when I asked I got no real explanation.
My Pastor does not teach "Organization," he teaches THE WORD of God.
In all of this talk about leaving behind the old ways - I must ask ... is not the focus od an Apostolic to serve God and save souls? This controversy is causing such division I feel it is throwing the whole focus off what we are called to do.
There should not be such division among the men and women of God ~ where there is division there will not be ground fertile enough to birth revival.
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07-29-2014, 09:22 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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I find the division I have seen and that I am seeing as rather disheartening. I serve under the leadership of a highly anointed ministry in an independent church. I have witnessed their walks with God and have never found fault. I uphold standards, just as they teach - in love might I add.
Recently I have been shunned from being friends with members of the WPF because of "what I am." I didn't understand why, and when I asked I got no real explanation.
My Pastor does not teach "Organization," he teaches THE WORD of God.
In all of this talk about leaving behind the old ways - I must ask ... is not the focus od an Apostolic to serve God and save souls? This controversy is causing such division I feel it is throwing the whole focus off what we are called to do.
There should not be such division among the men and women of God ~ where there is division there will not be ground fertile enough to birth revival.
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Interesting. Surely somebody associated with them can tell you what they mean by "what I am". I know several GIB ultra conservative pastors who fellowship with WCF pastors with no problems. Does your church have some doctrinal position that would make you persona non grata?
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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09-23-2014, 03:42 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
I'm just curious, who were the original 6?
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09-28-2014, 07:47 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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I'm just curious, who were the original 6?
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*bump* does anyone know???????
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09-28-2014, 08:05 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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*bump* does anyone know???????
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I'll take a guess using the bigger names although I can't come up with six:
Nathanial Wilson, Larry Booker, Jerry Green, Johnny Godair, Floyd Odom....?
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10-01-2014, 12:33 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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*bump* does anyone know???????
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Johnny Godair
Kenny Godair
Larry Booker
Floyd Odom
Nathaniel Wilson
Crawford Coon
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10-01-2014, 06:51 PM
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of 10!! :)
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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Johnny Godair
Kenny Godair
Larry Booker
Floyd Odom
Nathaniel Wilson
Crawford Coon
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