**** Are the NCO and AWCF "raiding" the UPCI or providing a "safety net"? ****

[Monkeyman]

Ok, what was the location and event for the video of Phillips at AWCF. Is this the TV they are promoting, my lord if so, they need Si Si Jaun in a hurry. I mean that is baaaaad video. Not much in attendance by the look of the joint, people getting up and walking out during a 'high point' in his talk, bad lighting. Man if these cats are to be leading the way, who is following, seriously. It looked bad. A internet service from POA makes these dudes look like an access cable show. It looked like a rented hall at a Holiday Inn in New Jersey, (sorry new jersey).
I would be a yes vote in Tampa, but if this is what we are going to see, sheeesh!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Ok, what was the location and event for the video of Phillips at AWCF. Is this the TV they are promoting, my lord if so, they need Si Si Jaun in a hurry. I mean that is baaaaad video. Not much in attendance by the look of the joint, people getting up and walking out during a 'high point' in his talk, bad lighting. Man if these cats are to be leading the way, who is following, seriously. It looked bad. A internet service from POA makes these dudes look like an access cable show. It looked like a rented hall at a Holiday Inn in New Jersey, (sorry new jersey).
I would be a yes vote in Tampa, but if this is what we are going to see, sheeesh!

It obviously was not done with KP's equipment! For about 15 years Promiseland has had 4 Hitachi Z1B broadcast camera's and other top notch gear. That has finally worn out and this month they are replacing that with new equipment.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Ok, what was the location and event for the video of Phillips at AWCF. Is this the TV they are promoting, my lord if so, they need Si Si Jaun in a hurry. I mean that is baaaaad video. Not much in attendance by the look of the joint, people getting up and walking out during a 'high point' in his talk, bad lighting. Man if these cats are to be leading the way, who is following, seriously. It looked bad. A internet service from POA makes these dudes look like an access cable show. It looked like a rented hall at a Holiday Inn in New Jersey, (sorry new jersey).
I would be a yes vote in Tampa, but if this is what we are going to see, sheeesh!

I thought the same thing. From the little video I saw and crowd shots . . . it didn't look like more than a couple hundred people were there.

What were all the white banner-looking things along the sides and on the back wall of the stage?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Ok, what was the location and event for the video of Phillips at AWCF. Is this the TV they are promoting, my lord if so, they need Si Si Jaun in a hurry. I mean that is baaaaad video. Not much in attendance by the look of the joint, people getting up and walking out during a 'high point' in his talk, bad lighting. Man if these cats are to be leading the way, who is following, seriously. It looked bad. A internet service from POA makes these dudes look like an access cable show. It looked like a rented hall at a Holiday Inn in New Jersey, (sorry new jersey).
I would be a yes vote in Tampa, but if this is what we are going to see, sheeesh!

There are already online streaming services of empty buildings.

Some are as cheezy as you describe.

Others are full of life like you described POA.

Everytime I see a church website with

• -Empty Sanctuary photos on the front page
  - No "contact us" link
  - No map
  - No real strong statement of faith

I know we are no where near ready to venture into TV.
Except parts of Cheeseville.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

There are already online streaming services of empty buildings.

Some are as cheezy as you describe.

Others are full of life like you described POA.

Everytime I see a church website with

• -Empty Sanctuary photos on the front page
  - No "contact us" link
  - No map
  - No real strong statement of faith

I know we are no where near ready to venture into TV.
Except parts of Cheeseville.

It is actually worse than that. I am amazed at the number of church websites where you have to hunt for five minutes or more to find the church address. Sometimes it is not even on there at all, just an email contact.

I have spent a lot of time at a church site I have stumbled across in a search and have had no clue as to the city or state it is in.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Ok, what was the location and event for the video of Phillips at AWCF. Is this the TV they are promoting, my lord if so, they need Si Si Jaun in a hurry. I mean that is baaaaad video. Not much in attendance by the look of the joint, people getting up and walking out during a 'high point' in his talk, bad lighting. Man if these cats are to be leading the way, who is following, seriously. It looked bad. A internet service from POA makes these dudes look like an access cable show. It looked like a rented hall at a Holiday Inn in New Jersey, (sorry new jersey).
I would be a yes vote in Tampa, but if this is what we are going to see, sheeesh!

I'm no longer a "vote" one way or the other... but you make an excellent point.

What's the point of going on television if your broadcast just makes you look bad? They really need to do things right and provide tools for local churches like pre-produced commercials and such. I almost cringe already when I think of what some people would do with a little TV exposure.

[CC1]

I could be wrong (my wife often tells me I am) but I don't really see the AWCF or NCO as the actual organizations that mod / lib UPC 3 steppers might use as their new org.

I think both the AWCF and NCO are umbrella org.'s not intended to replace the different Oneness Pentecostal org.s.

I can see the AWCF and NCO being the starting point of fellowship,etc but that probably if some major players left the UPC they would want something more than a loose association like that.

Not something as political and structured as the UPC but something with a concise doctrinal statement (to protect the PAJC / 3 Stepper doctrine),etc.

[Felicity]

In regard to K Phillips' message ........ I got more out of the first 20-25 min. than the last 15 or so.

Originally Posted by Felicity

In regard to K Phillips' message ........ I got more out of the first 20-25 min. than the last 15 or so.

Couldn't stay awake?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Couldn't stay awake?

Be nice. KP's message was no more than a half hour.

At least the day of hour and half messages are behind us.