The UPCI Needs a Healer

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Well, we all know it's much more profitable for the Kingdom of God to stand in the pulpit of some local church and attack other Apostolics than to go on TV and preach the truth in love to a multitude of sinners!

Seems to be the thoughts of some. Thank God my pastor has more wisdom than that. We not only want to preach the truth in love but we are involved in most community projects which include services where all churches come together. My pastor happens to be the leader of those meetings. Maybe that makes some thinks badly of us but we are truly having revival and have unity in our community.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Amos, lets place those comment in context.

they were not said about the broad group of men who are leaving. Those comments were said to one poster with a long standing history who was saying some things that illicted the retort.

As always context is key.

Thank you Ferd. That is exactly right.

[Coffee99]

Sometimes, much must be cut away before something can heal. Perhaps the vote, and subsequent exodus, IS the start of the healing.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

If JG (whom I think is a great preacher and has been a favorite of mine for a long time) and the rest of them want to stay in the UPCI and allow their neighboring church to be on TV and reach the lost then the UPCI can see the same growth with them in it as it will see with them gone.

The problem is that there are more cons who get in the pulpit and preach against the libs next door than it is the other way around. Most of the time the cons only preach against the libs.

I am acquainted with a conservative or two, and while the scenario you describe may occur occasionally in the lunatic fringe, most conservatives that I know preach from the Bible, not about local neighboring churches and pastors.

This is a hollow accusation designed to broad brush conservatives as hate mongers who harp continually to their churches about brethren across town.

I am raising the nonsense flag on this one.

Hogwash.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Thank you Ferd. That is exactly right.

I have observed the increasing militance of your postings in the last few weeks, Brother.

Something to think about.

The exact words I typed were not said, I didn't quote them as being said. Its just that several people have posted their idea that conservatives leaving the UPCI is going to be a great growth factor. I'm simply trying to decipher this attitude. Because they don't hold license with the UPCI they just become invisible? How does their "bad spirits" effect the current growth? More specifically, how on earth could anybody else's bad attitude effect my personal soul winning and church growth? I think these are reasonable questions to ask people who simply say "Good riddance" to conservatives.

JS - Bro. Godair, or any other anti-Resolution # 4 brother, has zero impact on anybody else advertising on television. That's a done deal. They cannot impact me in any way, shape, or form should I begin to place ads for the church I pastor on local television stations.

Another question: it has been posted that the number of applications to receive license with the UPCI has grown greatly in the past few weeks. Where has this information come from? Is it made up? As a UPCI licensed pastor I would have no idea about these types of statistics, so it would be interesting to know where they came from. I would be glad if that were the case.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

You noticed as well? You guys feel bad because I refuse to coddle a whiner?

Call him what you want.

Your hateful spirit is no beter.

Also, I would have no idea what pastors are preaching against whom. If conservative pastors are preaching against liberal pastors or liberal pastors bashing conservative pastors. Is there some sort of cd headquarters where statistics are kept on these things?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Amos

I have observed the increasing militance of your postings in the last few weeks, Brother.

Something to think about.

If there is one thing BrotherEastman is NOT, is militant.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by irish1

Also, I would have no idea what pastors are preaching against whom. If conservative pastors are preaching against liberal pastors or liberal pastors bashing conservative pastors. Is there some sort of cd headquarters where statistics are kept on these things?

Exactly.

But apparently our good Brother Miller knows all about this stuff, and has a nationwide perspective that allows him to know which conservative pastors all across North America are preaching against their liberal counterparts.

I am in awe of his vast knowledge.

I am even more in awe that he can post it with a straight face and expect us to accept it as credible just because of his testimonial.