For 3 days, where was Jesus' soul?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by A_PoMo

I think you get the prize on this one. Beat me to it. Tarturus in my opinion. There's also another place called the abyss.

There's something very interesting in the OT.hell either means sheol a place where departed spirits go,or the grave.
I do believe in a punishment of wicked,but yet you see don't a lake of fire in the OT.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

BTW one meaning for hell is Tartarus or something like that.SEE 2 Peter 2:4 That is the only place that hell means tartarus in the NT.
Keep in mind Greek thought and Hebraic thought is different.
2 Peter 2:4 Speaks of angels being cast down into the deepest abyss.

But even though Greek and Hebraic thought (philosophy) is different.....Jewish folks wrote the majority of both testaments. Peter's thoughts on hell didn't change when he spoke Greek. Peter was seeped in Jewish culture, although it may have been slightly Hellenized, He was raised in Israel.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Please don't misunderstand me I do believe in a punishment of the wicked,but sometimes we get concepts in our minds from tradition,that we look at things from a closer examination we can see things in a different light.
The punishment of the wicked will not be a joy-ride I assure you.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Mizpeh I don't agree with The Hebraic roots people on everything but they do have some valid points.I thank God for our english Bibles,and yes most of the NT. was written in Koine greek,alot of The NT. is quotes from the old,sometimes Hebrew doesn't translate the best into greek.

[staysharp]

The question...where was Jesus' soul? can be somewhat misleading or misdirected. If Jesus did have a soul as you and I, then that soul would be eternal also and would continue in heaven as God's resurrected son. Just thinking out loud.

With regard to his death, His body died, that's it. He ascended into the bosom of Abraham and led captivity captive. He then gave gifts to men. Jesus' spirit didn't die, neither did his soul (if he had one) lol

[Singrkel]

Wow, never heard of or seen any of this. How interesting. We were just discussing the whole pre/post trib thing, of which I don't know much on, with my father in law. Some of this may be really useful to him...he likes this stuff. Never even thought it to be this way at all. Prax, do you run a university or what? You got a mean scald on the word!!!

[Praxeas]

I think these words should just be transliterated instead of using hell for all of them

NET Mat 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? No, you will be thrown down to Hades! For if the miracles done among you had been done in Sodom, it would have continued to this day.

MKJV 2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare sinning angels, but thrust them down into Tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, being reserved to judgment.

AMP Mat 5:22 "But _I_ say to you*, every [one] being enraged at his brother without cause will be in danger of the judgment, and whoever says to his brother, 'Empty-headed fool!' will be in danger of the high council, and whoever says, 'You worthless fool!' will be in danger of the hell [Gr., gehenna] of the fire [or, the fiery hell].

Eastons
Gehenna
(originally Ge bene Hinnom; i.e., “the valley of the sons of Hinnom”), a deep, narrow glen to the south of Jerusalem, where the idolatrous Jews offered their children in sacrifice to Molech (2Ch_28:3; 2Ch_33:6; Jer_7:31; Jer_19:2-6). This valley afterwards became the common receptacle for all the refuse of the city. Here the dead bodies of animals and of criminals, and all kinds of filth, were cast and consumed by fire kept always burning.

It thus in process of time became the image of the place of everlasting destruction. In this sense it is used by our Lord in Mat_5:22, Mat_5:29, Mat_5:30; Mat_10:28; Mat_18:9; Mat_23:15, Mat_23:33; Mar_9:43, Mar_9:45, Mar_9:47; Luk_12:5. In these passages, and also in Jam_3:6, the word is uniformly rendered “hell,” the Revised Version placing “Gehenna” in the margin. (See HELL; HINNOM.)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Singrkel

Wow, never heard of or seen any of this. How interesting. We were just discussing the whole pre/post trib thing, of which I don't know much on, with my father in law. Some of this may be really useful to him...he likes this stuff. Never even thought it to be this way at all. Prax, do you run a university or what? You got a mean scald on the word!!!

lol. Just get e-sword and all the bells and whistles and you too can post like a scholar

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Eastons
Gehenna
(originally Ge bene Hinnom; i.e., “the valley of the sons of Hinnom”), a deep, narrow glen to the south of Jerusalem, where the idolatrous Jews offered their children in sacrifice to Molech (2Ch_28:3; 2Ch_33:6; Jer_7:31; Jer_19:2-6). This valley afterwards became the common receptacle for all the refuse of the city. Here the dead bodies of animals and of criminals, and all kinds of filth, were cast and consumed by fire kept always burning.

It thus in process of time became the image of the place of everlasting destruction. In this sense it is used by our Lord in Mat_5:22, Mat_5:29, Mat_5:30; Mat_10:28; Mat_18:9; Mat_23:15, Mat_23:33; Mar_9:43, Mar_9:45, Mar_9:47; Luk_12:5. In these passages, and also in Jam_3:6, the word is uniformly rendered “hell,” the Revised Version placing “Gehenna” in the margin. (See HELL; HINNOM.)

So hell is God's garbage bin?

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by staysharp

The question...where was Jesus' soul? can be somewhat misleading or misdirected. If Jesus did have a soul as you and I, then that soul would be eternal also and would continue in heaven as God's resurrected son. Just thinking out loud.

With regard to his death, His body died, that's it. He ascended into the bosom of Abraham and led captivity captive. He then gave gifts to men. Jesus' spirit didn't die, neither did his soul (if he had one) lol

Did'nt know how to word the question. His body we know ly in the tomb.

Maybe where did his spirit go for three days.

Prax brought up the words defined as hell in the bible. I have read a few papers on the thought of, is there a "hell" as we have heard it descibed.

Some say the Jews had no place called hell in the OT. Others say that hell was handed to us by paganism and the catholic churh, that the where the KJV the verses or words translated to the word hell, really should have not been translated at all. Like Gehenna, to the people who heard Jesus refer to it, knew that he was refering to "the city dump"

It's another interesting subject that I have not taken the time needed to really study it out.


So my question's answer is still a bit unclear to me.

Did Jesus go to the place we christians think of as Hell, fire and brimestone, people screaming in the worst imanginable pain for a billion million years.

Did Jesus go there for three days ??