When God Hates a Man

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Sorry, I can't buy the God HATED/HATES men. I can't buy the idea that God was mad at men in OT ALL the time either.

(Ps 7:11) "God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day."

Well I could be wrong, but, since "with the wicked" was added by the translators, it could be a "private interpretation" by them.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

That's the question. Are ALL His children?

All those who accept the handout.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

well, we do know that he hated at least one man (Esau)

Hey Eye Lady, (wink),

In the Bible, the word "hate" means "to love less". (:smiley)

[Scott Hutchinson]

I believe The Lord does hate the sinful state of fallen man,but does not hate the sinner.
God's will is for all to be reconciled to Himself,but all will not be reconciled to God due to some rejecting Christ.
The scripture says Jacob have I loved but Esau The Lord despised Esau's profane ways but I don't believe He hated Esau as a human being.
God loves but fallen man,but hates what original sin has done to the crown of His creation.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

BishopH .... are you asserting that God hates the sin and the sinner?

I may not have been real clear in my initial post. God hates all sin! In this verse it states that the man who God abhors (is angry/indignant with) will fall into some measure of immorality.

I do not think the scripture indicates that because God is angry with a man he will make/force him into immorality; rather it would indicate to me that because a man continues in some act/omission that is/are sin(s) that he invokes the anger/hatred of God which "uncovers" him if you will, leaving him vulnerable to falling.

Incidentally, the Hebrew word used here for "abhorred" is
za `am
1) to denounce, express indignation, be indignant
a) (Qal)
1) to have indignation, be indignant, be angrily indignant, be defiant
2) to be abhorrent
3) to express indignation in speech, denounce, curse
b) (Niphal) to show indignation, show anger

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

We must remember that Proverbs is poetry. It could mean that God abhorred those who fall into adultry, but said in a poetic way. Just saying.

Yeah I understand PM, but you know the adultress and immoral women are symbolically used a lot in the bible for God's wrath and punishment. Right through to Revelations. And I understand why since Eve started it all not Adam.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Many men in the OT had a serious dysfunctional view of women. Some still do today, instead of dealing with their own immorality. Similar to the obsessive focus on the outward appearance of the ladies .....

Bump!!!