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Old 06-13-2011, 12:32 PM
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I fellowship with both, and have worshiped with both. I personally have friends on both sides of the tracks. Both of them spirit filled
Me too! I never let denomination stop me from fellowship.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:49 PM
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We have had services with PAW, AA as well as we've had a youth group from a Episcopal church (I think) visit us as well as visitors from other kinds of churches

Your assessment of UPCI is faulty. I don't believe anyone that did not follow Acts 2:38 is a carnal minded sinner. Im sure David Bernard would not make such a generalizing assessment either.

I've been in services where it was a multi-denominational meeting with a UPCI and a black baptist and some non-denom spanish congregation. Recently many of us went to a concert featuring Tramain Hawkins at a black baptist church and we worshiped with them
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No i havent, toss me in a testimony as well. just wondering about your roots.

believe me i would love to see some denominational mix of worship i truely would. The only time i saw the upci and other churches come together was to picket abortions. I was so shocked and amazed. For one day everyone put away there doctrines and denomination and came together as a true body of believers for Pro -Life.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:51 PM
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some trinity pentacostals have the same dress code as the upci. infact some of these churches a apostolic could go into worship and praise God. watch the Spirit fall and get baptized in the Holy Ghost, they would feel right at home until it came to baptism,
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:53 PM
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He is right. In fact at one time most trinitarian churches had standards. Even today not all OP have standards

And in many Trinitarian churches today without standards they have a church dress code (for services) for the members or particularly those in ministry
Of course...but this is no suprise to me...I grew up Baptist. Yeah "we" prayed, fasted, and experienced the power of God in our services too. lol
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IMO- they dont consider it to be a cult...and when I say dress down I mean the women feel that they are being asked to "step back in time" with no makeup, long skirts, no pants...being preached "at." etc.
In my personal experience they do consider us a Cult. The listen to the Bible Answer man call us a cult. Visit a Trinitarian forum like CARM and witness it for yourself\

Our women don't dress "back in time" and in many none standard churches the women wear dresses to church anyways. I don't know what churches you guys go to but at my UPC church standards rarely get a mention and our congregation is so mixed that a visitor would rarely notice some of the ladies don't have makeup on. Any growing UPC church is gonna not all look the same.

If any visitor has not heard the UPC is a cult or thinks that way they probably don't already know about the standards or have an opinion that at every service the preacher is going to preach at them for not dressing like they do. Seriously what churches are you guys going to that this is happening?

We have visitors all the time....what more can I say?
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Of course...but this is no suprise to me...I grew up Baptist. Yeah "we" prayed, fasted, and experienced the power of God in our services too. lol
I know...is anyone reading what I've already posted? lol We've had multi-denominational services with the Baptists and others.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:00 PM
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In my personal experience they do consider us a Cult. The listen to the Bible Answer man call us a cult. Visit a Trinitarian forum like CARM and witness it for yourself\

Our women don't dress "back in time" and in many none standard churches the women wear dresses to church anyways. I don't know what churches you guys go to but at my UPC church standards rarely get a mention and our congregation is so mixed that a visitor would rarely notice some of the ladies don't have makeup on. Any growing UPC church is gonna not all look the same.

If any visitor has not heard the UPC is a cult or thinks that way they probably don't already know about the standards or have an opinion that at every service the preacher is going to preach at them for not dressing like they do. Seriously what churches are you guys going to that this is happening?

We have visitors all the time....what more can I say?
Yes some have called the UPC a cult, but I don't have to visit a forum when I can just ask my family lol. They don't call the UPC a cult and I'm going from THEIR own words. When I say "back in time" I mean that they have to go back to an antiquated way of interpreting what the bible means by modesty...etc. not the actual DATE the clothes were produced (but I can see how that would be mistaken because of the way I worded it). And it may not happen now, but because of some of their previously horrible experiences, they still won't set foot in the church even if you promise them that nobody will make them go to the altar for having on lipstick.

Oh, and I PERSONALLY have heard the messages "change" just because I walked through the door and they assumed I we were not saved. lol
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:02 PM
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Re: Do "other people" worship with your church?

Okay but back to what I asked (even though reversing the question is cool too)...

Why don't Oneness fellowship when invited to other churches? I've had some people promise return visits but...I guess we were not saved enough (even though we ARE oneness too).
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Re: Do "other people" worship with your church?

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well if your talking about cultural like black white, hispanic yes, but if your talking about outside the denomination. I.E. baptist fellowshipping with the upci, then that would be a No, as the upci believes all outside the apostolic realm who has not followed acts 2:38 with the edition of speaking in tounges to be carnal minded sinners.

so thier not even acknowledged as brothers and sisters in christ. (sorta sad really)



I attend a UPC church and we have baptists, lutherans, catholics, non-denominational and occasionally a few others that come and worship with us. AND some of them even sing and play! Imagine that...on the platform, up front, just as they are.
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A great many Trins would never accept an offer to attend a Oneness Church. They have many thousands of web sites up teaching their followers that Oneness Churches are cults and Oneness doctrine is heresy.
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