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Old 05-31-2013, 05:35 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Case

If the three of them Zimmerman, Martin&girlfriend were christians filled with the power of the holy ghost they be more concerned with "saving the lost" and none that would have happened!
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If the three of them Zimmerman, Martin&girlfriend were christians filled with the power of the holy ghost they be more concerned with "saving the lost" and none that would have happened!
It would save God a lot of heartache. Too bad it's not reality.
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:38 PM
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OK. Thank you. BUT that still does not mean he instigated anything. There is a lot of "evidence" missing from what you posted.
The guy got out of his car and did what the 911 operator told him not to do.
What happened after that is mute in my view. Should have stayed away period.

When he got out of his car he instigated it.
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:41 PM
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She wasn't there as an eyewitness so I hardly see how she could be a "star witness".
She said she was on the phone with Trayvon when Zimmerman, allegedly, approached Martin.

She lied about being in the hospital during his funeral. What is the girl about? Her testimony is worthless now.

All we have is the coroner showing that Trayvon had marks on his knuckles and photos of Zimmerman's nose and back of his head. It follows Zimmerman's story.

It also makes no difference whatsoever whether or not Zimmerman may have approached Martin or not. Whoever threw the first punch is the aggressor.
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The guy got out of his car and did what the 911 operator told him not to do.
What happened after that is mute in my view. Should have stayed away period.

When he got out of his car he instigated it.
You have to prove who hit who first. I can call you any name I like, but if you hit me first, you get the assault charges.
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He wasn't walking to his car, he was walking FROM his car.
Actually all we know is Z was following TM at a point in time. We don't know if he continued and indeed confront. The gap inbetween the 911 call and altercation and the resulting shooting is all assumption as to how it all went down. According to the audio Z was indeed following TM and then said something to the affect of "he ran," and approximately 1 minute and 30 secs after that statement Z was still on the phone with 911 and stated he didn't know where TM had gone. From that point on nearly anything could have happend from something as simple as Z standing in the same spot for a bit before going to his car and being confronted by TM or Z doing a full chase down of TM and confronting him.

My question would be if Z was indeed going back to his car and was confronted by TM is he then still guilty or 2nd degree murder, negligent homicide or whatever charge?
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Actually all we know is Z was following TM at a point in time. We don't know if he continued and indeed confront. The gap inbetween the 911 call and altercation and the resulting shooting is all assumption as to how it all went down. According to the audio Z was indeed following TM and then said something to the affect of "he ran," and approximately 1 minute and 30 secs after that statement Z was still on the phone with 911 and stated he didn't know where TM had gone. From that point on nearly anything could have happend from something as simple as Z standing in the same spot for a bit before going to his car and being confronted by TM or Z doing a full chase down of TM and confronting him.

My question would be if Z was indeed going back to his car and was confronted by TM is he then still guilty of 2nd degree murder, negligent homicide or whatever charge?


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When you compare Trayvon’s non-fatal injury with Zimmerman's bloody head wounds, the autopsy evidence is better for the defense, Sheaffer said.

“It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defense, because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin,” Sheaffer said.
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If the three of them Zimmerman, Martin&girlfriend were christians filled with the power of the holy ghost they be more concerned with "saving the lost" and none that would have happened!
The actions of an over zealous super hero crime fighter prevented one of them from never having the chance to be filled with the power of the Holy Ghost.
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The guy got out of his car and did what the 911 operator told him not to do.
What happened after that is mute in my view. Should have stayed away period.

When he got out of his car he instigated it.
IF he was going back to his car is he still guilty?
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:02 PM
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IF he was going back to his car is he still guilty?
If he never gotten out of his car to begin with, like he was told he wouldn't be walking back to his car. That is with your "if" assumption is correct.

The fact is he LEFT his car and when that happened it started a chain of events.

And if he was carrying a bible instead of a gun and said, I want to talk about the power of the blood in Jesus, it wouldn't have happened.
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