I never got the VIRUS!!!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Sis. this virus has had affects on people in so many different directions you or I cannot pin point it to one certain "pre-existing" condition. I know people that are husky and was in the hospital for a couple days and till this day they're doing well. On the other hand I know a young man that is active, does what he can with his health, and he was also in the hospital for a many days, actually he had to go back once he was released. People have lost their hair, lost their sense of taste and smell, it has affected those that are tall and short, fat and skinny. The real reason why you didn't pass away was because it wasn't your time. When it is your time, it may be in your sleep, or because of a sickness, God knows.

Husky is the name of breed of dog, the word which we are searching for is obesity. It is a dangerous lethal condition that makes any virus look like a case of the sniffles. Your "young man," your idea of "activity" with your view of "does what he can with his health" is meaningless to this discussion. My good friend and brother died from obesity. I also lost another good brother who you would of called "active, does what he can with his health." Both men died not from any virus, but from pre existing conditions which come from poor health. Brother Nick, if you go to the other Sister Alvear thread you can see a picture of her. While she uses the word "overweight" she is actually in danger, hence the reason she almost died. But, trying to say that totally healthy (scientifically) individuals died from COVID 19 is blatantly false. You are incorrect in your assumption of one's health, and only parroting the mainstream false narrative of the corporate media. We tend to believe because a person isn't "overweight" they are healthy, if they're "active" they are healthy. Even now we are finding out more about the human diet, and what we are supposed to consume for health. How vigorous exercise vastly improves the body, and one's state of mind. I love Sister Alvear, I would not want to be unkind towards her. But, what would be really unkind, is her making a statement concerning health, and the virus, with me just ignoring it. I totally agree with you if God pulls your ticket, then you die. Yet, that isn't a reason to jump off the pinnacle of the temple, to see if God will send His angels or tell them to sit back. I have a brother, who believes that if you lock up your truck, your house, or your tools on a job, that you don't have faith. He has lost chainsaws, and a Vermeer wood chipper. Was the theft a lack of faith? Brother Nick, living for God isn't a day to day roll of the dice. There are people who ride bulls, they only have to ride for 8 seconds. God is the factor or win or lose, you would agree. But you still wouldn't want to climb on one of the animals to take a spin with the hopes God would roll in your favor. You know the dangers for you. Same thing with life, we know right from wrong, we know when we can correct situations in our life because God gave us a choice. It is life choices, which roads to choose which we are given to God. It isn't all philosophical mumbo jumbo.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Yes I agree I am overweight...I have a health problem that causes that however I did have Covid and many skinny [people in our churches died of Covid...However I realize that being overweight makes things more complicated. No I do not take it wrong I am overweight...

My brother, also made that same exact statement. I was foolish to believe him, and I lost him to obesity. The root of your health problem is obesity. Yet, dealing with people with this problem is difficult. Due to denial of the core problem, self justification. Also the scores of people close to those who have the problem enabling them. Just like a bad drug addiction, and alcoholism. But with obesity, especially in the United States, it is still has its advocates. High carb, to only carb diets can be lethal. Keeping you in prayer sister, in Jesus name

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Do you not believe that Covid kills?

I believe that COVID hospitalized those who are unhealthy, and killed those with preexisting conditions. Just like the vaccines kill those who have preexisting conditions.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Husky is the name of breed of dog, the word which we are searching for is obesity. It is a dangerous lethal condition that makes any virus look like a case of the sniffles. Your "young man," your idea of "activity" with your view of "does what he can with his health" is meaningless to this discussion. My good friend and brother died from obesity. I also lost another good brother who you would of called "active, does what he can with his health." Both men died not from any virus, but from pre existing conditions which come from poor health. Brother Nick, if you go to the other Sister Alvear thread you can see a picture of her. While she uses the word "overweight" she is actually in danger, hence the reason she almost died. But, trying to say that totally healthy (scientifically) individuals died from COVID 19 is blatantly false. You are incorrect in your assumption of one's health, and only parroting the mainstream false narrative of the corporate media. We tend to believe because a person isn't "overweight" they are healthy, if they're "active" they are healthy. Even now we are finding out more about the human diet, and what we are supposed to consume for health. How vigorous exercise vastly improves the body, and one's state of mind. I love Sister Alvear, I would not want to be unkind towards her. But, what would be really unkind, is her making a statement concerning health, and the virus, with me just ignoring it. I totally agree with you if God pulls your ticket, then you die. Yet, that isn't a reason to jump off the pinnacle of the temple, to see if God will send His angels or tell them to sit back. I have a brother, who believes that if you lock up your truck, your house, or your tools on a job, that you don't have faith. He has lost chainsaws, and a Vermeer wood chipper. Was the theft a lack of faith? Brother Nick, living for God isn't a day to day roll of the dice. There are people who ride bulls, they only have to ride for 8 seconds. God is the factor or win or lose, you would agree. But you still wouldn't want to climb on one of the animals to take a spin with the hopes God would roll in your favor. You know the dangers for you. Same thing with life, we know right from wrong, we know when we can correct situations in our life because God gave us a choice. It is life choices, which roads to choose which we are given to God. It isn't all philosophical mumbo jumbo.

Brother, I didn't mean to say that we can live carelessly, "because we're going to die one day anyways." I was just pointing out that even the health conscience have died at a young age, and those that were extremely overweight have lived to their 70s and 80s. Women carry their weight different than that from men, Ive always heard that women that are overweight could outlive men that were overweight because of that concept. Well that's not always true. I do agree that we should take care of our health, I agree 100%. Yet, my Dad was into bodybuilding, I remember when he first gave me my first barbell, 1'' bar, with weights that were sand filled, I would be out there everyday doing barbell curls, reverse curls, whatever I needed to get that "pump" that I could get at age 8. Yet, my Dad died of cancer less 2 years of his diagnosis, I remember seeing his weight go from 240 all the way to 130 in a matter of months. Bodybuilding didn't help then, vitamins, protein shakes, lean fat, high protein, moderate carb diet didn't help at that point. Im not disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out moderation. I am sorry about your brother by the way.

[mizpeh]

I got the vaccines and the booster and then got the Omicron version of Covid which felt just like a common head cold. And still wearing a mask in public places.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

40years young.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I got the vaccines and the booster and then got the Omicron version of Covid which felt just like a common head cold. And still wearing a mask in public places.

I’m not being critical when I ask this.

Why do you wear the mask if you’ve had all the shots/boosters?

I just never understood that concept. I do not have the vaccine, I haven’t wore a mask in about 2 years, and I did have Covid or at least I thought I did, never got tested.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I got the vaccines and the booster and then got the Omicron version of Covid which felt just like a common head cold. And still wearing a mask in public places.

Sister, that's nothing to brag about.

[Sparrow]

Well, I for one have a brother in law currently in ICU on a ventilator. His organs have begun shutting down. Unless we receive a miracle, in all likelihood he will die. He is not overweight. No known preexisting conditions. Diligent in his diet. Exercises, doing cardio, weights, etc, and yet here we are with him fighting Delta Variant Covid.

[Sparrow]

I will add that I do agree that obesity/preexisting conditions play a large part in how severe Covid can be for individuals.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Brother, I didn't mean to say that we can live carelessly, "because we're going to die one day anyways." I was just pointing out that even the health conscience have died at a young age, and those that were extremely overweight have lived to their 70s and 80s.

You are pointing out anecdotal evidence. Obesity leads to a horrible outcome. Obese women were more likely to die before age 85 years. Obese women had higher risks of incident disease and mobility disability. Therefore your anecdotal evidence is useless in a discussion when you are dealing with people's health. In other words you are wrong.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Women carry their weight different than that from men, Ive always heard that women that are overweight could outlive men that were overweight because of that concept.

You always heard? Were you playing Dean Martin Xmas albums backwards? Brother, obesity is a medical condition, also a pyschological condition. Our bones get stronger by exercise, not by carrying fat and fluid. Therefore the feet usually suffer greatly from carrying the excess weight. Also the excess fluid and fat press against the internal organs. Again, anecdotal evidence (sometimes termed as bro science) is false.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Well that's not always true. I do agree that we should take care of our health, I agree 100%. Yet, my Dad was into bodybuilding,

Again, I understand totally, you don't know what you are talking about concerning this subject. Therefore we cannot check out these stories, my dad was a bodybuilder, he trained like Jack LaLanne, he was in perfect health yet he died young.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I remember when he first gave me my first barbell, 1'' bar, with weights that were sand filled, I would be out there everyday doing barbell curls, reverse curls, whatever I needed to get that "pump" that I could get at age 8.

What is this all about? Are you telling us that your father (a body builder) just threw equipment at you? Then left you to your own devices? With all due respect, and please forgive me, but I find it pretty hard to believe that someone who understood strength and health would just hand his kid a set of vinyl covered concrete weights. Then have no input, or training with the child. Curls and reverse curls? You sound like someone who didn't last over a week, let alone a month. Looking for a pump? But you want me to believe that your father was an individual who was into strength and health?

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Yet, my Dad died of cancer less 2 years of his diagnosis, I remember seeing his weight go from 240 all the way to 130 in a matter of months. Bodybuilding didn't help then, vitamins, protein shakes, lean fat, high protein, moderate carb diet didn't help at that point. Im not disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out moderation. I am sorry about your brother by the way.

I'm sorry about your father. No disrespect to your dad. Lean fat? high protein diet? Seriously you really don't sound like you know what you are talking about. 240lbs of what? Let's take muscle, let's say he liked to be shredded, and that he kept his body fat extremely low, while staying dry (water limited) There are dangers in that being electrolyte deficit. What kind of vitamins was he taking? Supplements being taken without the guidance of knowing what you are deficient is dangerous. Brother, obesity is life threatening. It is a pre condition that causes people to be unable to fight off diseases. I'm not talking out in left field here, that is proven fact. As far as body builders, they die young, with leukemia, heart failure, and all kinds of cardiovascular diseases. Two extremes my brother, sadly in society people can't find a balance.