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03-03-2007, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
In reality, the original language points to the Bishop being at one with his wife. Not the husband of one wife. Oh how that changes the amount of men qualified for such a position.
If it truly meant the husband of one wife, you'd have to take it exactly literally and that means any man who has been married more than once, regardless of whether the first marriage was ended by death, could not be a Bishop.
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Husband of One wife according to the authority of scripture. Being divorced would be outside the scope of the authority of Scripture.
Taking on a wife once has already passed does not fit into the idea of being the husband of one wife for the office of Bishop or Pastor.
What is your thought on a man becoming a Bishop if his divorce happened years before he was saved?
I think the record starts at salvation.
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03-03-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
Husband of One wife according to the authority of scripture. Being divorced would be outside the scope of the authority of Scripture.
Taking on a wife once has already passed does not fit into the idea of being the husband of one wife for the office of Bishop or Pastor.
What is your thought on a man becoming a Bishop if his divorce happened years before he was saved?
I think the record starts at salvation.
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Depends on the organization you want to affiliate with. UPCI might see it the way you have posted, but I think ALJC will not allow anyone to hold license that has ever been divorced regardless of fault or timing. At least this is the way I understand it to be.
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03-03-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by whollyHis
It's been my experience that the title 'BISHOP' means little, if anything. The only Bishop that I have known, was never used to anything in the church, and his advice was NEVER appreciated, nor taken. He was pastor Emeritus- whatever THAT means. He sits in a pew along with everyone else, and stays in his own corner...
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Emeritus... He kept the title of pastor,but is retired. In some churches, the Sr. Pastor is "emeritus."
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03-03-2007, 03:11 PM
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Bishop-pastor-shepherd-presbyter-elder are names for the same office however 'elder' is used for other offices. The pastor is the bishop.
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03-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
In reality, the original language points to the Bishop being at one with his wife. Not the husband of one wife. Oh how that changes the amount of men qualified for such a position.
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Please support this assertion.
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If it truly meant the husband of one wife, you'd have to take it exactly literally and that means any man who has been married more than once, regardless of whether the first marriage was ended by death, could not be a Bishop.
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As to your second assertion. I find it is also unsupported. It's just you asserting it.
What you are saying in the bold part is a contradiction. You said "ended by death", yet your assertion really is based upon the idea that the marriage was NOT ended by death...that they are still married and thus that man has two wives.
If the marriage was "ended" then they are no longer married.
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03-03-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Please support this assertion.
As to your second assertion. I find it is also unsupported. It's just you asserting it.
What you are saying in the bold part is a contradiction. You said "ended by death", yet your assertion really is based upon the idea that the marriage was NOT ended by death...that they are still married and thus that man has two wives.
If the marriage was "ended" then they are no longer married.
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Not so it means "a one woman-man" It seems like we have discussed this subject before????????????????????????
NO there is NO such thing as a WOMAN bishop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-03-2007, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
In reality, the original language points to the Bishop being at one with his wife. Not the husband of one wife. Oh how that changes the amount of men qualified for such a position.
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I'd like to see the support for this, Ron.
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If it truly meant the husband of one wife, you'd have to take it exactly literally and that means any man who has been married more than once, regardless of whether the first marriage was ended by death, could not be a Bishop.
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Considering that one definition of "one" is first, it would be quite possible to interpret the passage to mean the "husband of his first wife."
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03-03-2007, 03:38 PM
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I'd like to see the support for this, Ron.
Considering that one definition of "one" is first, it would be quite possible to interpret the passage to mean the "husband of his first wife."
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Probably written by someone with their second or third wife.
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03-03-2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Probably written by someone with their second or third wife.
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lol
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03-03-2007, 03:44 PM
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Elder Epley ... do you think that a fellowship needs to define terms such as Bishop?
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