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Old 10-30-2007, 10:01 PM
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that is true.


Did someone say that legalism is the same a witchcraft?
Legalism and witchcraft are very, very closely related.

They both are anti-Christ and are all about manipulation.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:01 PM
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I like you, Troy.

You are passionate about what you believe, and you love souls.

Those are good things.

I think that those same things could be said about all the guys here. Some have different approach than others but we all love souls.

The fact that we love souls is the reason we what to preach to them via internet, radio, and tv. We are just trying to reach our cities the best way we know how.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:02 PM
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Legalism and witchcraft are very, very closely related.

They both are anti-Christ and are all about manipulation.

I agree with that.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:03 PM
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I agree with that.
A hearty Apostolic amen.
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The Book of Galatians deals with legalism. Paul sets the stage on how he feels about legalism in the first two chapters. In Galatians 3:1, Paul asks who bewitched the Galatians.

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3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
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Others versions translate Galatians 3:1 as who put a spell or hex on you. That verb is associated with witchcraft.

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that is true.


Did someone say that legalism is the same a witchcraft?
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The exact words I typed were not said, I didn't quote them as being said. Its just that several people have posted their idea that conservatives leaving the UPCI is going to be a great growth factor. I'm simply trying to decipher this attitude. Because they don't hold license with the UPCI they just become invisible? How does their "bad spirits" effect the current growth? More specifically, how on earth could anybody else's bad attitude effect my personal soul winning and church growth? I think these are reasonable questions to ask people who simply say "Good riddance" to conservatives.

JS - Bro. Godair, or any other anti-Resolution # 4 brother, has zero impact on anybody else advertising on television. That's a done deal. They cannot impact me in any way, shape, or form should I begin to place ads for the church I pastor on local television stations.

Another question: it has been posted that the number of applications to receive license with the UPCI has grown greatly in the past few weeks. Where has this information come from? Is it made up? As a UPCI licensed pastor I would have no idea about these types of statistics, so it would be interesting to know where they came from. I would be glad if that were the case.
I might be wrong, but I think you were attempting to quote me. But I did not say this is a growth factor. I said it because it shows that the UPC already was not in unity and if they are causing division IN the body then we might be better off without them....being better off without them is not necessarily about numerical growth.
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In the eternal purpose of God I doubt very very very very much that a few men being out of sorts with a man made organization even registers on His radar screen.

I am more inclined to believe that God is probably somewhat amused at how serious some folks believe their views are to Him. I'm sure He has had a few chuckles at my own sense of self importance through the years.
I suspect that some of the attitudes, however, register very strongly on his radar screen.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:05 PM
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"Crybaby preacher..."

"Whiner..."

"Self-righteous..."

Those are all personal comments, not critiques of posts or ideas.
So, if it matters to you so much, why don't you report him to Admin?
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:05 PM
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"Crybaby preacher..."

"Whiner..."

"Self-righteous..."

Those are all personal comments, not critiques of posts or ideas.
Okay Amos, In case you didn't know it, the guy you're defending has been banned on this forum, as well as another one. I have never been banned, I know who wholehearted is, once again, get over it. I'm sorry that I am getting so sick of this guy that I want to vomit, I'm sorry that all I've seen from his posts are hateful self righteous bigotry that has finally gotten on my last nerve.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:07 PM
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Okay Amos, In case you didn't know it, the guy you're defending has been banned on this forum, as well as another one. I have never been banned, I know who wholehearted is, once again, get over it. I'm sorry that I am getting so sick of this guy that I want to vomit, I'm sorry that all I've seen from his posts are hateful self righteous bigotry that has finally gotten on my last nerve.

Why are you holding back???
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