The UPCI Needs a Healer - Page 35

BrotherEastman · #**341** 10-30-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

BE ... you're a dolphin in a pool of sharks.

That hurts Dan. LOL!

Amos · #**342** 10-30-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

So, if it matters to you so much, why don't you report him to Admin?

I have never been the tattle tale kind.

I guess I thought I would try to kindly point out what seemed to me to be a shift in his attitude of late.

This Brother has always seemed reasonable before, and today he went off on a man that really didn't provoke him personally.

If you feel I was out of line, I will certainly listen to you, as you appear to be a mature and good man of God.

Coffee99 · #**343** 10-30-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shamgar1

The UPCI is NOT a cult or legalistic, but there is a radical fringe within the UPCI that is cultic. We are seeing that small group flex their muscle in a fit of absolute rage because the dominant strangle-hold they have held for so long has been broken.

This group came to power in the early-to-mid seventies, and have consistently pushed an extremist agenda, with no regard for those who disagreed.

The worm has turned.

One of the greatest biblical laws is found in Galatians 6:7, "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap."

BrotherEastman · #**344** 10-30-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Why are you holding back???

Because I'm trying real hard to be good.

Praxeas · #**345** 10-30-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by irish1

Also, I would have no idea what pastors are preaching against whom. If conservative pastors are preaching against liberal pastors or liberal pastors bashing conservative pastors. Is there some sort of cd headquarters where statistics are kept on these things?

How we know it happens? We have friends in those churches who tell us. And it also happens in conferences where veiled referrences are made to "certain pastors who blah blah blah"...if you have not experienced that then you have not been around long, or just have not been around. That's probably a good thing, but in our area it's been happening for years. And also some of what is said is not necessarily preached from the pulpit, but in private where one preacher tells another he is backslidden. Or when we hear word from the the youth of one church that they are no longer allowed to go to the youth function of another church.

if you are not yet aware of this, in the Western District there are a group within the WD that have their own special camp meetings, youth conventions, youth camps and fellowship meetings apart from the rest of the WD...infact the other churches who are said to be compromisers, are not invited.

I know because I know people that go to those churches. I know because I ran into a young lady that told me how they have a group of churches that fellowship each other because "we have not compromised". This has been happening for years.

Then to have one pastor get nasty calls from other pastors because one particular paster said this pastor and his church were backslidden and have gotten rid of standards. The talk goes on and on and on. It's not just from the pulpit either or the ministers. Their laity talk it up too.

I know this because our church and pastor, even my previous very conservative pastor, has for years been the victim of this stort of stuff.

Truly Blessed · #**346** 10-30-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee99

I suspect that some of the attitudes, however, register very strongly on his radar screen.

Man made organizations tend to be governed by man made rules, which inevitably lead to man made problems. God is not too concerned about organizations and denominations, but He is concerned about His Body. I agree that wrong attitudes in the individual hearts of members of the Body of Christ likely disappoints God very much. Leaving an organization however, is not likely to appear on His radar screen IMHO.