The UPCI Needs a Healer - Page 36

#**351** 10-30-2007, 10:28 PM

I don't know what is considered "getting around" evidently. Maybe it means I don't gossip nor allow gossipers to come to me. The point was made that cons preach against libs much more than the other way around. How is this even possibly quantifiable? Its just a ridiculously overblown generalization.

That is all beside the point anyway. How would my church be any better if there were more liberals or more conservatives in the UPCI? The folks I pastor have no idea about politics, they don't care, it doesn't effect us.

If an organization is healthier it will grow quicker. If growth is not the point then what is?

Every person in the UPCI could preach about me in their pulpit this Sunday and it wouldn't matter to me one iota.

This kind of thinking is rather absurd. People make these statements, broad and completely without logic, "Good riddance to people with a more conservative take on things than me, we're so much better off now." How? Less money for missions? Great! That makes perfect sense.

All I am asking is for somebody to tell me how the UPCI is in someway way better off with less churches and pastors? Simple question. If I were in the Western District and Bro. Booker drops out of the UPCI, is my church going to grow more now? Would the congregation I pastor even know? Why would they care? Then, does that make his church go away into Never Never Land because Bro. Booker no longer pays his dues to Hazelwood?

I'm just amazed at this kind of thinking and am trying to see if there is a shred of logic I am missing. Then again, I probably have not gotten around ...

RandyWayne · #**352** 10-30-2007, 10:28 PM

I always get worried when people start talking about needing an individual to heal/unite/save.

Wouldn't be a hoot if thee anti-christ actually came up through the ranks of the apostolic community?

rkentsmith · #**353** 10-30-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I always get worried when people start talking about needing an individual to heal/unite/save.

Wouldn't be a hoot if thee anti-christ actually came up through the ranks of the apostolic community?

God has always used a man....

One time he used a jack donkey....

But most times....

A man.....

Coffee99 · #**354** 10-30-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Amos

Today's posts have told a different tale.

It seems that Rev. Eastman has shown backbone.

Joseph Miller · #**355** 10-30-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by irish1

All I am asking is for somebody to tell me how the UPCI is in someway way better off with less churches and pastors? Simple question. If I were in the Western District and Bro. Booker drops out of the UPCI, is my church going to grow more now? Would the congregation I pastor even know? Why would they care? Then, does that make his church go away into Never Never Land because Bro. Booker no longer pays his dues to Hazelwood?

NO it would not affect your church either way, so the question the rest of us would like to have an answer for is this, If them leaving won't affect our churches, how will his staying and us being on TV affect his? Why does he have to leave? I wish all would stay and realize that if they leave it won't affect the mod to lib churches. If they stay the mod to lib churches won't affect their churches.

Coffee99 · #**356** 10-30-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Amos

I have noticed a very subtle shift for acouple of weeks or so, that became very pronounced today.

Nice attempt at taking the focus off your own vitriolic posts by trying to focus on a trivial detail.

Could it not be righteous indignation instead?

#**357** 10-30-2007, 10:35 PM

JM - You'd have to ask the men leaving that. I'm sad any have left. I'm just trying to understand this strange mentality that is glad they are leaving, acting like it is wonderful somehow.

Praxeas · #**358** 10-30-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rkentsmith

3577 views...

348 post....

mucho division....

Folks....

Indeed the UPCI needs a healer

Is there an echo in here? The healer was needed a long time ago, but there is no healing where two sides or one of two sides refuse to be healed. There is no compromise. Even as you put it, it's all or nothing. Either we ALL go back to doing things the CON way or there is no healing. How is that healing? That's absurd.

Praxeas · #**359** 10-30-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by irish1

JM - You'd have to ask the men leaving that. I'm sad any have left. I'm just trying to understand this strange mentality that is glad they are leaving, acting like it is wonderful somehow.

Saying we might be better off is no the same as being glad. Reverse it...apparently the Cons that are leaving think they are better off without those that remain. It's a win win situation where there are two parties that can not or will not try to meet in the middle somewhere and have unity.

Let's recap....they CHOSE to leave.

SDG · #**360** 10-30-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Is there an echo in here? The healer was needed a long time ago, but there is no healing where two sides or one of two sides refuse to be healed. There is no compromise. Even as you put it, it's all or nothing. Either we ALL go back to doing things the CON way or there is no healing. How is that healing? That's absurd.

I still hate AGREEING W/ YOU!!!