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Old 07-19-2008, 03:09 PM
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Re: Was Joseph going to Divorce Mary?

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and thus giving credence to JESUS command.. that a marriage could end because of FORNICATION only.....

if she was not a virgin she was guilty of fornication

Contractually they were married? Every tried to get a marriage annulled? First question.. has the marriage been consumated.. if NO.. annulment granted... they were not married but they were considered Husband and Wife... with no consumation you have no coming together.. no two becoming one and you have NO MARRIAGE
You are trying to compare modern day marriages with semitic cultures 2000 years ago? If they were not really married then he could not divorce her.
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Right, Sam, so how could he have done that "privately"?
She could have been sent away to another area where she was not known to raise the child as a single mother.
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in the eyes of God or according to custom at the time?
No it would be in the eyes of God because it was the ANGEL OF GOD from the PRESENCE OF GOD that recognized them and Husband and Wife
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Re: Was Joseph going to Divorce Mary?

Sir ... you ignore the legal ramifications ...

One cannot get a divorce if not legally married.

Hello !!!!

You choose to throw away original language ... historical and contexual evidences in lieu of your modern day Webster's dictionary definition of fornication ... when it's PORNEA ... in the Greek ... and that encompasses many sexual sins ... including adultery.

You have no legs to stand on.
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you are trying to compare modern day marriages with semitic cultures 2000 years ago? if they were not really married then he could not divorce her.
duh!!!!

He would have divorced her for being unfaithful to the marriage contract ... Adultery.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:14 PM
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Re: Was Joseph going to Divorce Mary?

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Sir ... you ignore the legal ramifications ...

One cannot get a divorce if not legally married.

Hello !!!!

You choose to throw away original language ... historical and contexual evidences in lieu of your modern day Webster's dictionary definition of fornication ... when it's PORNEA ... in the Greek ... and that encompasses many sexual sins ... including adultery.

You have no legs to stand on.
Not true, I just dont need to create legs for my situation
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She could have been sent away to another area where she was not known to raise the child as a single mother.
Oh, I see. Boy, God sure does bring his stuff around in the most, I can't think of the word, sometimes it's like - confusion. lol
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duh!!!!

He would have divorced her for being unfaithful to the marriage contract ... Adultery.
I think this is where you get to spit. I saw the men make points and then spit on Fiddler on the Roof.
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duh!!!!

He would have divorced her for being unfaithful to the marriage contract ... Adultery.
Wrong yet again.... he would have divorced her for PRE MARITAL sex because the marriage had not been consumated.... and the contract for marriage would have been violated and as such... a bill of divorcement to end the contract would have come forth..... and thus before he ever consumated the marred he could have ended the marriage
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Not true, I just dont need to create legs for my situation
Sir ... I've got strong hermeneutics to prove this ... and believed it prior to my situation ...

You choose to lay aside whatever theological foundations you've learned as a student to prove your pet doctrine ... and that sir ... is deplorable if you want to teach this .....
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