A Question About "Love Not The World"

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I've never thought of that scripture in that way before. I always thought that the lust of the eye, lust of the flesh and the pride of life was just part of the flesh/sin issue ... and part of the struggle that goes on in regard to the flesh.

1Jo 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Let me break it down another way:

For all that is IN the world

• The lust of the flesh
• The lust of the eyes
• The pride of life

Is not of the father, but is OF the world.

The three listed are BOTH "in the world" and "of the world"!

This comes directly after, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Verse 16 explains more in detail what was meant in verse 15.

I'm sorry, rrford, I see you beat me to the punch!

Originally Posted by Pianoman

1Jo 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Let me break it down another way:

For all that is IN the world

• The lust of the flesh
• The lust of the eyes
• The pride of life

Is not of the father, but is OF the world.

The three listed are BOTH "in the world" and "of the world"!

This comes directly after, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Verse 16 explains more in detail what was meant in verse 15.

I'm sorry, rrford, I see you beat me to the punch!

But notice that verse 15 says both "the world" and "the things that are in the world." John is identifying two different things here.

As I said in my earlier post:

Note the passage (1 John 2:15-17):

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

Notice the phrases "in the world" and "of the world." The passage doesn't say that the things listed "are the world." Notice in verse 17 it says "the world...and the lust thereof." This, again, does not say that lust IS the world.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

1Jo 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Let me break it down another way:

For all that is IN the world

• The lust of the flesh
• The lust of the eyes
• The pride of life

Is not of the father, but is OF the world.

The three listed are BOTH "in the world" and "of the world"!

This comes directly after, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Verse 16 explains more in detail what was meant in verse 15.

I'm sorry, rrford, I see you beat me to the punch!

Good post but you'll see the scripture says OF the world, but not "the world".

Appreciate you Bro. Pianoman. Have a wonderful day!

[RevDWW]

Worldy = Brown
Godly = Green

Colossians 3:1 - 25 (KJV) 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against ]them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

[Felicity]

Rev. DWW ......

That was good!

[bertcarring]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I think it's anything that's opposed to God's kingdom. If we are really seeking His kingdom and its righteousness, we won't have to worry about loving th world.

I never could understand how anyone could say that the whole bible is the word of God and everything in it should be obeyed and then go to their church and see women pastors and women usurping authority over men and teaching men.

That has and still does to this day befuddle me how it is simply ignored as if it does not exist.

I see these women preachers waving the bible in the air as they be preaching and the first thought that always comes to mind...in the bible she is waving in the air...it strictly forbids women preachers and pastors to men.

[bbyrd009]

Actually, the Book of Ruth will show you that this is not true, and God has no problem using women to teach. That Scripture you are leaning on actually says "don't chatter, don't gossip" in church. A Bible engine "lexicon" will get you there pretty quick, to "chatter."

[bertcarring]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Actually, the Book of Ruth will show you that this is not true, and God has no problem using women to teach. That Scripture you are leaning on actually says "don't chatter, don't gossip" in church. A Bible engine "lexicon" will get you there pretty quick, to "chatter."

This is all incorrect.

[The Matt]

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by bertcarring

This is all incorrect.

I'm sorry, but an unsupported "That is not true" here = "You are so right."
If you will just provide the least reference for your claim, we can proceed.
A lexicon of that verse you will quote will easily lead you to "chatter, gossip" there for that translation of "talk." This got settled like 800 years ago.
Here, from "talk" in I Cor 14:34
http://concordances.org/greek/2980.htm
The form of the verb and the subject of the verse both indicate that "chatter" or "gossip" is more likely here.