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Old 05-01-2007, 01:39 PM
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How can we be losing a war in which have all already achieved most of our objectives ... regime change ... democratization of Iraq ... WMD's or lack thereof... freeing up the Iraqui oil supply .... and now we are working to stabilize the nation ....Isn't achieving one's objectives the benchmark for victory ... it's asinine to think differently.

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WMD were there prior to our entry in the country and gassing over a million citizens also was documented.

The instability of the region is not stable and growing. No matter what the media of the US says.

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Old 05-01-2007, 01:41 PM
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A Sane voice in the crowd.

WMD were there prior to our entry in the country and gassing over a million citizens also was documented.

The instability of the region is not stable and growing. No matter what the media of the US says.

Support our troops!
Thats right, but the mass media refuses to acknowledge it. But who doesn't know they are liars?
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:54 PM
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I support our troops and I am a patriot.

We have several of our church members on duty in Iraq right now.

I don't believe we are "winning" there, though. I do believe we "won" certain things, however we will NEVER win the situation there.

It is virtually impossible to "win" here. One dead leader is nothing. For every leader there are a thousand wild-eyed wannabe's.

Keep in mind the Scriptural prophecy concerning the Ishmaelites. They are untameable. Their hand is against every man. God Himself said that about them.

We should do our best to save them individually, but as a collective body they will never be brought under the kind of rule and peace that we seek.

Our government is on an impossible mission. Pontificate all you like, when we leave it will once again become a nation hostile to America.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:55 PM
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What makes you believe the BBC is any fairer or accurate than our own? What incentives does any news outlet have to be fair or accurate of it's own country or some other?

I don’t know if foreign networks are this bad. But I’ve noted on a number of occassions that the news that really seems to matter is far more often reported in the foreign press, long before the American press picks up on it, if ever.
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I support our troops and I am a patriot.

We have several of our church members on duty in Iraq right now.

I don't believe we are "winning" there, though. I do believe we "won" certain things, however we will NEVER win the situation there.

It is virtually impossible to "win" here. One dead leader is nothing. For every leader there are a thousand wild-eyed wannabe's.

Keep in mind the Scriptural prophecy concerning the Ishmaelites. They are untameable. Their hand is against every man. God Himself said that about them.

We should do our best to save them individually, but as a collective body they will never be brought under the kind of rule and peace that we seek.

Our government is on an impossible mission. Pontificate all you like, when we leave it will once again become a nation hostile to America.
Totally agree!
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:56 PM
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Thats right, but the mass media refuses to acknowledge it. But who doesn't know they are liars?
When we leave they will be developed again. I don't really see us ever extracting ourselves from the growing problems in the Middle East.

The unrest and war there is prophecied. If we can't bear to sit by and watch it...and we won't....we'll be in the middle of it from now till the end.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:05 PM
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You can support the troops and be totally patriotic even though you don't necessarily agree with the reason why they've being placed in a particular situation or the fact that they're being kept there.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:06 PM
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When we leave they will be developed again. I don't really see us ever extracting ourselves from the growing problems in the Middle East.

The unrest and war there is prophecied. If we can't bear to sit by and watch it...and we won't....we'll be in the middle of it from now till the end.
I agree the Middle East won't be resolved until the final battle.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:08 PM
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When I think of the war, I think of 9/11.

it is quite possible to repeat itself, but the house and senate can not unite itself to protect us or come together and do what it takes to win the war.

leaving us very vunerable.
Please explain how US being in Iraq whether Congress gives the President 100 Gajillion dollars is supposed to keep us safe from terrorist in North America? An individual war with black ops against certain individuals makes more sense does it not? What in the world did Iraq do to attack the US? Yes, Sadam was a monster, but do you seriously think that we are any safer or in more danger because of this stupid war?
I voted for Bush, I would do so again, HE WAS WRONG, admit it! sheesh!
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