Tongues, boundaries, rules

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Prax I understand your post but like this past Sunday, some were praying with others and more then 2 or 3 where speaking in "tongues", no interpretation, that is the problem I have with the whole Tongues thing if you speak in tongues to yourself no one around you will hear it or if they do it needs interpreting which very,very,very rarely happenes. I believe in tongues as it happenes in the bible,it just does not happene the same way as the bible in churches.

1 Cor 14
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no-one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church
13 For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says.
28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.

Speaking in tongues to God does not mean others will not hear it...it should just be private between you and God.

If I'm praying in English, others around me hear it ('cause we're standing close to each other).

If I start praying in my native language, others around will still hear it (though they won't understand what I'm saying) Should I then not be allowed to pray in my native language because someone sitting close to me will hear it?

On the flip side, should I not pray in english anymore because the guy sitting next to me in the church (who doesn't understand english) will hear me? obviously not!

Paul's point is not about others hearing it. It's about not being the public sphow of the service IF there's no interpreter.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Through the years (53 yrs), many people have walked through the doors of the church my late father founded and pastored. Many young people that went to school with our church children, my siblings, myself, visited as children. They felt God's Presence but upon mentioning it to their parents, were immediately frisked off to their denominal pastor. Of course their pastor (who had never received the Holy Ghost), had the ready answers to take the Word(seed)out of their young hearts. But in the past few years, seeds that were sown many years ago, have lain in hearts, but as they grew up and matured, have come and received the Spirit as adults. Some just this year. Some the last five years. Being diagnosed with cancer, brain tumors, etc., caused some to seek something they remembered as children. They admitted denominal pastors and parents alike, fought them against the "Pentecostal" church. Just this week on Facebook, a man who is now married and has children, saw my name, and sent me a message telling me
me how "you people" influenced him as a child. Wanted to thank me for my part in that influence. I called an area bank one day and the lady that took my call, asked me if I was ???'s mother. Also spoke of the influence the church had on her as a child when she came to our SS. When she was 14 yrs old, she received the Holy Ghost and when she wanted to be baptized, her mother wouldn't allow her to come anymore. Was told by her mother that she could go to any church but the Pentecostal church. Many children came on our buses or was brought by church members (although their parents didn't/wouldn't come. The parents of several children allowed their children to come, but would never come, unless their kids had a part in a special program. When their little boy grew older, and their children started getting in trouble, they wanted our father to help them. Dad and Mom "trained up" their own eleven children "in the way they SHOULD go". He was able to pastor (shepherd) other's children for a while. But the influence of the home they lived in didn't agree with the church.
I could tell many sad stories, but I could also tell many glad stories that my late parents were never able to see. We haven't seen the end of the LORD, that HE is of much compassion and of tender mercies.
Just recently a young lady came and visited our church. She had once been very active in a local denominal church. She had moved to another state near her grandmother. She went to a "Spirit-filled" church with her grandmother, felt the Presence of God in a Powerful way. Moved back to our city and visited our church, came two weeks ago and received the Holy Ghost. GOD is bringing out of darkness, those who are hungering and thirsting for righteousness and they are being filled. When they receive the SPIRIT, they speak in other tongues, without exception.
Those who have never received the Holy Spirit/Ghost (same thing), don't need to be saying a lot about some place they have never been. You can't take others to places you've never been yourself. You can't tell people how beautiful Colorado is, IF you have not been there yourself. You can imagine from pictues, films, etc. But not the REAL thing!
Perhaps some have been vocal about things they know nothing of. Many places I have been/seen by experience, etc.
My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind.

Falla39

As the resident prophet of AFF, I prophesy that houston will comment on the last emboldened statement....

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

As the resident prophet of AFF, I prophesy that houston will comment on the last emboldened statement....

Must be something there that I am not aware of.

[Aquila]

Some folks fail to understand that, in most cases, interpreting tongues is an "interpretation", it's not a "translation". I've had my tongues interpreted and I've interpreted tongues. The best way to describe it will be best understood by parents. Many times a baby will cry. The cry makes no linguistic sense. However, it's not uncommon for a mommy or daddy to understand that the cry means that the baby is hungry, wants held, is uncomfortable, scared, etc. Many who don't have children often wonder, "How'd you guys know what the babby needed?" It's all in the "interpretation" of the cry. The "feeling" or the "vibe" that it brings to one who knows the baby. Same with tongues. When one speaks to the congregation in tongues one with the gift of interpretation can "sense" the meaning of the tongues. They will then use their limited human vocabulary to convey the message they are hearing in their spirit through the Holy Ghost. Therefore, "la la la" might only take two seconds... but the "interpretation" of what the Spirit of God is saying in that two seconds might take 5 minutes to interpret. Just like a baby crying "wa waaaa waaaaaa wa waaaaa" can be interpreted by a sensitive parent who knows the child as meaning, "I'm hungry. Please feed me." or "I'm wet. Please change me." or "Please hold me." or "I'm uncomfortable."

It takes deep spiritual maturity and emotion to interpret tongues. Those gifted with interpretation often pray to God repenting as to if they missed what God was trying to say, or worded it incorrectly in any way. If one isn't in tune with the Spirit... or unfocused, they can be significantly off.

It's "interpretation" not "translation".

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

As the resident prophet of AFF, I prophesy that houston will comment on the last emboldened statement....

And, TGBTD, what is your "prophetic" comments on my post! LOL!

Falla39

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Falla39

And, TGBTD, what is your "prophetic" comments on my post! LOL!

Falla39

I have no comments...
Love you Sis Falla, it's just that you and houston's "back and forth" crack me up so bad...

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

I have no comments...

Just hoped my post did not come across as harsh or unkind.
I remember Houston making a comment about how I would say something and then add the "not intended......" etc. But I don't take Houston too seriously. I'm old enough to be his grandmother. I was once young myself. Thought my father and his mother, (my paternal grandmother) were so old foggey. I was 14 and foolish and silly. But how I have thanked GOD for my wise father and grandmother's influence in later years. Priceless!

Falla39

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Must be something there that I am not aware of.

AYR, Sis Falla's statement "My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind." is something Houston always has something to say about, and it's just so funny to me when they both go back and forth.


Now, I feel bad for "sowing discord"...

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

AYR, Sis Falla's statement "My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind." is something Houston always has something to say about, and it's just so funny to me when they both go back and forth.


Now, I feel bad for "sowing discord"...

I think our posts crossed. No problem at all here!
Guess we'll find out if you "sowed discord" when Houston
gets here!

Falla39

[Hoovie]

and now i will bring a moment of solace by yodeling in the spirit... stand by.