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Old 03-19-2013, 07:43 AM
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Re: What’s the Difference Between Holiness and Leg

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God is consistent. You cannot be lukewarm and not be spewed. You are being purified by walking or not. Also to use "prayerless" is impossible in your usage. You cannot be sincere and prayerless.
Yes... but God isn't "consistent" according to human logic. God is consistent with His will and nature. God knows who to cut off and when. God also knows who to have abundant mercy upon and when.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:53 AM
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Yes... but God isn't "consistent" according to human logic. God is consistent with His will and nature. God knows who to cut off and when. God also knows who to have abundant mercy upon and when.
lol... my logic? consistent is consistent. Has nothing to do with human logic as a contrast. 1+1=2 ALL the time and everytime. Same variables same result. so also it is with God. He is consistent.

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Old 03-19-2013, 08:22 AM
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lol... my logic? consistent is consistent. Has nothing to do with human logic as a contrast. 1+1=2 ALL the time and everytime. Same variables same result. so also it is with God. He is consistent.
God isn't a computer. And PRAISE GOD that God isn't "fair". I had a discussion with my son about the difference between "just" and "fair".

Let's say that three brothers are eagerly awaiting their 10th birthdays. The first one turns twelve and dad gets him a bicycle. The second one turns 10 and dad gets him a bicycle also. Then the third one turns 10... but dad gets him a remote control car. The first thing he will say is, "But dad, I wanted a bicycle... that's not FAIR."

The truth is... the third son is irresponsible and can't be trusted to ride his bike safely. Therefore, while it is indeed "unfair" that he didn't get a bicycle... it is perfectly "just".

God is a living Spirit. God judges in accordance to His will... and His plan. God also knows just how much heated conviction to turn up on a person to bring them to their knees... while others... He allows to backslide into being reprobate. He does this to accomplish His perfect will. God isn't a computer. And God isn't "logical". Speak to a storm as though it is alive and command it to be still... illogical. Walk on the water in the midst of a storm... illogical. God turns math and physics upside down with a smile... to accomplish His divine will.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:23 AM
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I've seen God cut a man off after he's struggled with a sin for 2 years. I've seen God give others grace and mercy towards the same struggle for many years. Why? It's all part of a greater plan.

It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:41 AM
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I've seen God cut a man off after he's struggled with a sin for 2 years. I've seen God give others grace and mercy towards the same struggle for many years. Why? It's all part of a greater plan.

It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
It is a fearful thing to not fall into the hands of a living God. I hope that when or if I start to slip that God would bring correction to my life but not through some trumped up man made doctrine. But by His might because I would much rather have my life in the hands of an angry God than a spiteful man.
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God isn't a computer. And PRAISE GOD that God isn't "fair". I had a discussion with my son about the difference between "just" and "fair".

Let's say that three brothers are eagerly awaiting their 10th birthdays. The first one turns twelve and dad gets him a bicycle. The second one turns 10 and dad gets him a bicycle also. Then the third one turns 10... but dad gets him a remote control car. The first thing he will say is, "But dad, I wanted a bicycle... that's not FAIR."

The truth is... the third son is irresponsible and can't be trusted to ride his bike safely. Therefore, while it is indeed "unfair" that he didn't get a bicycle... it is perfectly "just".

God is a living Spirit. God judges in accordance to His will... and His plan. God also knows just how much heated conviction to turn up on a person to bring them to their knees... while others... He allows to backslide into being reprobate. He does this to accomplish His perfect will. God isn't a computer. And God isn't "logical". Speak to a storm as though it is alive and command it to be still... illogical. Walk on the water in the midst of a storm... illogical. God turns math and physics upside down with a smile... to accomplish His divine will.
smh... wow you are all over the place. Hate examples like you give as they always fail on so many points. you make perfect judgment unvariable and God inconsistent. Yes in part he would be perfectly exact like a computer with his judgment. He is consistent. you changed the variables in your formula and made it to seem randomness is in God. It's not. His will and his perfect justice are not at odds or ever against each other. Your points on water and the storm have nothing to do with what is being discussed concerning logic that is being talked about. You are talking ignorant aspects of reason. Not that it is not logical.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:51 AM
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I've seen God cut a man off after he's struggled with a sin for 2 years. I've seen God give others grace and mercy towards the same struggle for many years. Why? It's all part of a greater plan.

It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
sorry if I don't accept or believe your judgment of what was judgement or not. What was mercy of God and what was not. That is your perceptions.

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Old 03-19-2013, 10:30 AM
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I do believe in scripture often when the bible we read says "holiness" the true word in the original text was meant as "wholeness" or "fullness." Holiness is a fullness that comes from closeness with Christ. Legalism is foolishness that comes from being close to the religious.
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Re: What’s the Difference Between Holiness and Leg

In the Bible, we are compelled to "Be ye holy, as I AM HOLY"...

The bottom line is this: I doubt that ANY christian on the face of this earth is even CLOSE to being as holy as He is. Know why? Because we spend a HUGE amount of time worrying about what being 'holy' IS, instead of asking the Holy spirit to LEAD US and GUIDE US into ALLLLLLLLL truth.

Just my two cents' worth.
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Re: What’s the Difference Between Holiness and Leg

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I do believe in scripture often when the bible we read says "holiness" the true word in the original text was meant as "wholeness" or "fullness." Holiness is a fullness that comes from closeness with Christ. Legalism is foolishness that comes from being close to the religious.
The difference is phonetics?
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