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03-11-2014, 10:02 PM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
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Yes, yes he did say it.
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You are right it did say it, although he did say it both ways as well. I was referencing post #8, skipping the first paragraph as I didn't want to take the time to decipher it.
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No, I read/heard what they literally said. You tried ignoring their actual words and instead put your spin and explanation on what you thought they meant.
And with Delay, you tried claiming he didn't say what he did say. I had to re-post his quote for you to acknowledge it.
So how do you know what they actually meant? I mean, you must have a gift or something to be able to ignore literal spoken words and get in the mind of the speaker.
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Well, when I read his second quote - God created it, it was written on Biblical principles", it was apparent, he was saying he felt God had guided the men in the construction of the document. It was more a clarification for me. That's how I took it. It was like a no-brainer.
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03-11-2014, 10:32 PM
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You are right it did say it, although he did say it both ways as well. I was referencing post #8, skipping the first paragraph as I didn't want to take the time to decipher it.
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What an excuse! Skip where he said God wrote and pick out something else he said. You've spent post after post trying to decipher what he said, but you want to skip the part where he said God wrote the Constitution cause you didn't want to take the time?
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03-11-2014, 10:41 PM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
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What an excuse! Skip where he said God wrote and pick out something else he said. You've spent post after post trying to decipher what he said, but you want to skip the part where he said God wrote the Constitution cause you didn't want to take the time?

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At the outset, I didn't want to take the time to read through this part of your mirky post #8. So, no I didn't see it until I went back to reference the part I quoted - "God created..."
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“I think we got off the track when we allowed our government to become a secular government,” DeLay told host Matthew Hagee, the executive pastor of the TexasCornerstone Church. “[W]e stopped realizing that God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution, that it’s based on biblical principles."
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Actually, now I really do think you are acting like a jerk.
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03-11-2014, 11:22 PM
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At the outset, I didn't want to take the time to read through this part of your mirky post #8. So, no I didn't see it until I went back to reference the part I quoted - "God created..."
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Mirky? Oh, you must mean MURKY.
And really?? You think the first quote was murky but the second wasn't? How convenient.
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Actually, now I really do think you are acting like a jerk. 
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I'm ignoring this quote because it's too "mirky" to read.
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03-11-2014, 11:47 PM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
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Mirky? Oh, you must mean MURKY.
And really?? You think the first quote was murky but the second wasn't? How convenient.
I'm ignoring this quote because it's too "mirky" to read.
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Thanks for the correction. I guess I had that coming.
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03-12-2014, 02:31 AM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
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Yes, yes he did say it.
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I agree with PO on this subject.
This nation has become so nit picky they have lost the spirit behind the laws. And before anyone has a fit I realize this discussion is not about a law. Just saying that same spirit seems to be moving into the church.
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03-12-2014, 04:25 AM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
Apparently many of you believe God scribbled the U. S. constitution with His own finger much like He forged the law out of stone for Moses and Israel.
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03-12-2014, 06:05 AM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
No one ever speaks too quickly off the cuff, uses hyperbole, or exaggerates, then tries to clarify when they realize they've gone too far? Everything everyone says has to be taken literally at all times.
No one ever mis-speaks and wishes they could take back what they said?
But when a comment becomes a sound bite, then it can be examined, analyzed, scrutinized, and argued over, ad infinitum.
I hope some of you never say anything stupid or perhaps inaccurate, not factual, or of a completely personal, yet divisive opinion ever again.
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03-12-2014, 06:09 AM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
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So how do you know what they actually meant? I mean, you must have a gift or something to be able to ignore literal spoken words and get in the mind of the speaker.
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You must have the same or similar gift, to accuse the man of pandering for votes, as opposed to being there and speaking under sincere, faith-based reasons.
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03-12-2014, 06:28 AM
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Re: U. S. Constitution Inspired by God
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
No one ever speaks too quickly off the cuff, uses hyperbole, or exaggerates, then tries to clarify when they realize they've gone too far? Everything everyone says has to be taken literally at all times.
No one ever mis-speaks and wishes they could take back what they said?
But when a comment becomes a sound bite, then it can be examined, analyzed, scrutinized, and argued over, ad infinitum.
I hope some of you never say anything stupid or perhaps inaccurate, not factual, or of a completely personal, yet divisive opinion ever again.
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I agree that this is probably what happened. I responded to the thread before I read his entire quote. He did say "God wrote....", but I doubt he meant inspired in the sense that the scripture is God's inspired Word.
As PO pointed out, the rest of the comment gives context, and he probably misspoke.
However, it is offensive to me for anyone to suggest that a man-made document is on par with scripture, and I do think Delay is, at the very least, giving too much credit to our forefathers. Some of them were godly men, some of them weren't. Some of them were guided by God, and others were not. Our Constitution is most definitely a superb document, by and large founded on scriptural principles that everyone involved could agree on.
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