No Jesus Name Invoked, No Valid Baptism?

[Steve Epley]

Only baptism in Jesus Name are sins remitted since Pentecost.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Only baptism in Jesus Name are sins remitted since Pentecost.

Amen

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Only baptism in Jesus Name are sins remitted since Pentecost.

If these people truly loved the name of Jesus, they would run to get baptized in that precious holy name, their arguments against it is a clear indication that they do not love the name of Jesus. Sad indeed.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If these people truly loved the name of Jesus, they would run to get baptized in that precious holy name, their arguments against it is a clear indication that they do not love the name of Jesus. Sad indeed.

Again, you are missing the point. In their estimation, they were baptized in the name of Jesus. Certainly the words of Jesus in Matthew 28:19 were not intended to be a baptismal invocation, but there have been many people baptized that way who have gladly suffered and given their very lives for the "name of Jesus". So you are way out of line claiming they don't love the "name of Jesus". It is outbursts like this that will make you lose all credibility with people you might otherwise influence to seek more truth.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If these people truly loved the name of Jesus, they would run to get baptized in that precious holy name, their arguments against it is a clear indication that they do not love the name of Jesus. Sad indeed.

This is a spirit that is truthfully coming against the name of Jesus. The same spirit that came against the Jews, and has us calling God the Tetragrammaton! Because we take away the name and what happens? Overtime we lose the name. So it gets to the point no one knows the name. Without the name we are powerless, and have no identity!

The devil wants that more than anything, because then we will be powerless over his attacks. For Jesus has promised us in Mark 16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; [18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Who would want to stop that promise? I choose to stand strong against that spirit, because I love the name of Jesus! Its the most beautiful name I know!!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

This is a spirit that is truthfully coming against the name of Jesus.


In most cases that simply is not true. Most people who are baptized in what you refer to as "the titles" love Jesus Christ. Many die horrible death "for his name's sake".




The same spirit that came against the Jews, and has us calling God the Tetragrammaton! Because we take away the name and what happens? Overtime we lose the name. So it gets to the point no one knows the name. Without the name we are powerless, and have no identity!


If we have his Spirit, we have his name. You are not thinking rationally and analytically.



The devil wants that more than anything, because then we will be powerless over his attacks.


Those who have his Spirit are endowed with power from on high to defeat Satan. But we do not defeat him simply by saying the word "Jesus". Lee Stoneking went so far as to say that the prayers of Trintarians are powerless, even if they are prayed using the name of Jesus! It's outlandish teaching like this that makes people stay away from us, not because we invoke the name of Jesus is baptism.

For Jesus has promised us in Mark 16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; [18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Who would want to stop that promise? I choose to stand strong against that spirit, because I love the name of Jesus! Its the most beautiful name I know!!

You do not see Trinitarian Pentecostals operating in the gifts of the Spirit saying "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost". They always say "in the name of Jesus". Yes, they should say the latter in baptism, too. But you are not being accurate in most of your summation. One faulty premise after another.

smh

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

This is a spirit that is truthfully coming against the name of Jesus. The same spirit that came against the Jews, and has us calling God the Tetragrammaton! Because we take away the name and what happens? Overtime we lose the name. So it gets to the point no one knows the name. Without the name we are powerless, and have no identity!

The devil wants that more than anything, because then we will be powerless over his attacks. For Jesus has promised us in Mark 16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; [18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Who would want to stop that promise? I choose to stand strong against that spirit, because I love the name of Jesus! Its the most beautiful name I know!!

I'm standing on this!

[consapente89]

Ok wait. Originalist confirms Tyrones erroneous beliefs that he doesn't actually need to be baptized in Jesus name. Proceeding then to encourage him to go ahead and get baptized so that he can at least appease the Apostolics and those he may baptize in the future. Sounds like something a poser would say.

Tyrone, you need to get baptized in Jesus name so that your sins can be remitted. I encourage you NOT to get baptized until you understand and believe that.

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