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01-28-2011, 09:59 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next
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Maybe they (those dropping out of the UPC) will form a loose alliance, then Keith will have a place to belong. 
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We do have a place to belong. It's called the church. Any of the rest is extra at best, hinderance at worst. Very sad.
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01-27-2011, 10:58 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
Preaching Jesus and His ability to save to the uttermost has alway been an offense and stumbling block. Why? It takes the control out of the hands of men and returns it to God, and empowers the pew like nothing else! God is at work and WHO will hinder Him???
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01-27-2011, 11:11 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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So the entire constituency of the UPC ministers under the age of 35 in now in the 300s and dropping?
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less than 5% ...
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01-27-2011, 02:21 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
Well...I was actually alluding to MJ on one of my posts this morning. That being two prominent pastors in the state next to me (Deleware) had pulled out. I'm not into name dropping...but since the cat is out of the bag...Anthony Trout was on that list as well and his church is huge in Dover, and his dad is huge in the Delaware district.
I both know and have heard MJ preach, he is amazing and not only zealous for God but has a tremendous passion for people. I have not heard him for awhile now, but I would imagine him being the same way.
From what I see, they are loosing younger preachers like a cut jugular. The sad part is I don't believe it has to be this way.
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01-27-2011, 02:30 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I am from Delaware and know both of these pastors (AT and MJ). I don't know if they have or have not dropped their UPCI licenses...nor do I care... But I DO KNOW they are both anointed men of God and as strong as ever in their work for the Kingdom.
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01-27-2011, 02:33 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I can confirm that the men mentioned have dropped their license. Their names are in the Forward under the "No Longer Affiliated" section.
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01-27-2011, 02:34 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
Johnston was/is a very powerful speaker. Trout is from Pentecostal Royalty. The Trout name is huge in the northeast.
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01-27-2011, 02:39 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Johnston was/is a very powerful speaker. Trout is from Pentecostal Royalty. The Trout name is huge in the northeast.
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The UPCI definitely lost two jewels when they lost AT and MJ. Also, AT's wife sings like an angel...so make that three jewels.
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01-27-2011, 02:45 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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The UPCI definitely lost two jewels when they lost AT and MJ. Also, AT's wife sings like an angel...so make that three jewels.
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I am saddened a bit. I worked with AT briefly, long ago. I really wish these guys would have stood their ground and fought back against the mean-spirited and unjust attacks they received. Someone needs to stand up to the bullies out on the Apostolic/Pentecostal playground.
... but then again, when push came to shove for me, I was silent as I got shoved around and quietly demurred to the boneheads. In the end, all that will be left of the U.P. of C. will be the boneheads. Unless, those boneheads go out and found another WWPF type thing.
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01-27-2011, 02:55 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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I am saddened a bit. I worked with AT briefly, long ago. I really wish these guys would have stood their ground and fought back against the mean-spirited and unjust attacks they received. Someone needs to stand up to the bullies out on the Apostolic/Pentecostal playground.
... but then again, when push came to shove for me, I was silent as I got shoved around and quietly demurred to the boneheads. In the end, all that will be left of the U.P. of C. will be the boneheads. Unless, those boneheads go out and found another WWPF type thing.
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