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Old 08-25-2015, 08:53 AM
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Re: Pastor steals more than $60K from church.

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Not to derail this thread, but is there a reason outside your personal ill-feelings of some kind you would disparage all Tennessee Pentecostals?

I mean I know we have some trolls here Ferd but I didn't think you were one of them.

As to good things coming from sin. Nothing good comes from sin. Good things can come from testimonies and forgiveness and repentance.... but not sin itself.

Those that say that they were glad to hear of the pastor committing sin are at best terribly confused... at worst... well I won't say...."Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;" 1 Corinthians 13:6

Pastors are men just like anyone else. While many lift them to the state of beyond mortal they live, die, and yes, are tempted as anyone... If they are tempted just like any of us they can fall like any of us as well.... There was only one person in all of human history who NEVER sinned and thankfully he died for us. The fact that a pastor sins does not disqualify him from being a pastor....it's how he deals with it after the fact. If the church board chooses to remove him from pastorship they have that right. How he deals with being let go is a better determiner of whether he should continue to be a pastor or not.
hahaha

I was actually getting my feelings hurt that no one took the bait.

so here are the reasons I said that.

1. CC1 lives in TN. so giggin him is always good.
2. I like to joke...
3. (now for the more relevant stuff...) Tenn... was strong on the 1 step PCI viewpoint back at the merger and if memory serves some of the biggest big name early UPCI leaders were from TN and were 1 step. considering all the various discussions we have had on these forums related to that.
4. Papa George Glass was my pastor as a kid. He was from my home church in Louisiana. Without question the greatest man of God I ever knew. He spent a good portion of his time in TN district.
5. Christ Church

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Old 08-25-2015, 09:03 AM
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Ive never been one to build doctrine on a single passage of scripture.... But I just wonder to what degree this passage has as it relates to this issue.


Lev. 21
21No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. 22He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy. 23Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them. 24And Moses told it unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:24 AM
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hahaha

I was actually getting my feelings hurt that no one took the bait.

so here are the reasons I said that.

1. CC1 lives in TN. so giggin him is always good.
2. I like to joke...
3. (now for the more relevant stuff...) Tenn... was strong on the 1 step PCI viewpoint back at the merger and if memory serves some of the biggest big name early UPCI leaders were from TN and were 1 step. considering all the various discussions we have had on these forums related to that.
4. Papa George Glass was my pastor as a kid. He was from my home church in Louisiana. Without question the greatest man of God I ever knew. He spent a good portion of his time in TN district.
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Clearly you are not a true believer. How dare you believe multiple first hand police reports vs the man of God's word. Haven't you read "touch not mine annointed"?
In context that is talking about [physical harm].
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In context that is talking about [physical harm].
So, talking smack about the pastor isn't physical harm?
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So, talking smack about the pastor isn't physical harm?

I believe in this context it is referring to Physical harm. In context it is not about talking smack.
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I believe in this context it is referring to Physical harm. In context it is not about talking smack.
so.... do you see the OT as what we call "types and shadows"?

or do you just read as "hey that happened....don't do that"?
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I believe in this context it is referring to Physical harm. In context it is not about talking smack.
So, if I poison the well about you personally, and back bite your reputation so badly that you have no more backside to sit down with, doesn't that equate to physical harm? If I put it out there all this bad PR about you, that no one will fellowship you, not even the devil? Doesn't that equal physical harm?

David didn't want to kill Saul, because it was God who called Saul, and gave Sual his position. David's main focus was, "Saul, I love you, and I don't want to hurt you."

David wanted to have Sual understand that David loved him, and wouldn't do anything to harm him. That is why when the Amalekite finished off a dying Saul, David had the Amalekite killed. Not for revenge, but because he loved Saul, and respected the position. A position which was given by God.
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Re: Pastor steals more than $60K from church.

Talking smack about someone is wrong. I believe all the church is a priesthood. We should honor those who labor in the kingdom for the works sake, but I don't feel like God is respecter of persons. I think that "touch not mine anointed" is overused sometimes to excuse bad behavior on behalf of the ministry.

No one should just run down another, but on the flip, there are situations that must be dealt with and things may have to be made public.
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Talking smack about someone is wrong. I believe all the church is a priesthood. We should honor those who labor in the kingdom for the works sake, but I don't feel like God is respecter of persons. I think that "touch not mine anointed" is overused sometimes to excuse bad behavior on behalf of the ministry.

No one should just run down another, but on the flip, there are situations that must be dealt with and things may have to be made public.
Kings and priests, yes, not many teachers.

Boy, ain't that the truth.
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