Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sean

1) True, but remember this, God did not take on "the flesh" of Mary's lineage.

2) God used "something" to get Mary pregnant.

3) Mary was 50% involved in the conception of Jesus.

4) If God took on flesh, He took on a cell form to mix with Mary's cell to form Jesus.

If not, Jesus was not the "son of man".

1) I hope you do not want to play a game of semantics. I Tiimothy 3:16 that Jesus Christ is the Almighty God in human flesh. God came "down through 40 and 2 generations" at the right time to robe Himself in flesh to bring salvation for the souls of men.

2) God used the Holy Spirit to get Mary pregnant. Any thing more than this is uninformed opinion. The truth is that THIS MYSTERY is great and I doubt it will be solved by an anonymous poster on AFF.

3) Mary was BLESSED. A blessing is given to someone without merit or effort. Mary was not 50% involved in the conception of Christ. Again, the Bible says the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. Any ideas that go beyond this is conjecture. I am specifically using the word, "conjecture" because we just do not have enough information to even have an intelligent opinion on this matter-- other than what is CLEARLY stated by scripture.

4) Conjecture. For all we know, GOD could have mooshed the sperm from Joseph with the egg from Mary with the Holy Spirit pouring anointing oil on what the KJV calls "that holy thing".... We. Just. Don't. Have. Enough. information. To. Have. An. Informed. Opinion. On. This.

Why can't great mysteries remain as great mysteries until God chooses to reveal them?

Jesus Christ is the Son of man and the Son of God because the Bible says so.

[Evang.Benincasa]

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...8&postcount=71

Sean, here is someone who knows you, and boy, did he confirm everything I have been posting to you. Sean, you are a religious Ed Gein.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

1) I hope you do not want to play a game of semantics. I Tiimothy 3:16 that Jesus Christ is the Almighty God in human flesh. God came "down through 40 and 2 generations" at the right time to robe Himself in flesh to bring salvation for the souls of men.

2) God used the Holy Spirit to get Mary pregnant. Any thing more than this is uninformed opinion. The truth is that THIS MYSTERY is great and I doubt it will be solved by an anonymous poster on AFF.

3) Mary was BLESSED. A blessing is given to someone without merit or effort. Mary was not 50% involved in the conception of Christ. Again, the Bible says the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. Any ideas that go beyond this is conjecture. I am specifically using the word, "conjecture" because we just do not have enough information to even have an intelligent opinion on this matter-- other than what is CLEARLY stated by scripture.

4) Conjecture. For all we know, GOD could have mooshed the sperm from Joseph with the egg from Mary with the Holy Spirit pouring anointing oil on what the KJV calls "that holy thing".... We. Just. Don't. Have. Enough. information. To. Have. An. Informed. Opinion. On. This.

Why can't great mysteries remain as great mysteries until God chooses to reveal them?

Jesus Christ is the Son of man and the Son of God because the Bible says so.

1 Tim3:16 does not say the highlighted(above).


It says God was revealed inside Jesus.

2 Cor 5:19 verifies that.


By you drawing a "blank" on the conception of Christ automatically puts you in the "divine implant" mode.

Thus, Jesus is not the true son of man, nor Mary's biological son.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

True, but remember this, God did not take on "the flesh" of Mary's lineage.

God used "something" to get Mary pregnant.

Mary was 50% involved in the conception of Jesus.

If God took on flesh, He took on a cell form to mix with Mary's cell to form Jesus.

If not, Jesus was not the "son of man".

You work construction? Or should I say use to work construction?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

In my opinion. There are only two options. Either Jesus was implanted or began as a sperm cell.

Back to the OP.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sean

In my opinion. There are only two options. Either Jesus was implanted or began as a sperm cell.

a sperm is the vehicle that carries DNA. God doesn't need to use a sperm to implant DNA into a egg. And He doesn't need preexisting DNA either. That's why it is a miracle.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

a sperm is the vehicle that carries DNA. God doesn't need to use a sperm to implant DNA into a egg. And He doesn't need preexisting DNA either. That's why it is a miracle.

Praise Jesus!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

a sperm is the vehicle that carries DNA. God doesn't need to use a sperm to implant DNA into a egg. And He doesn't need preexisting DNA either. That's why it is a miracle.

Jesus was a divine implant?

Was he then, the son of man as per Mary, or as per a God/man?

Mary was not his biological mother?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Jesus was a divine implant?

Was he then, the son of man as per Mary, or as per a God/man?

Mary was not his biological mother?

Sorry Mizpeh, Sean doesn’t understand the word miracle.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sean

Jesus was a divine implant?

Was he then, the son of man as per Mary, or as per a God/man?

Mary was not his biological mother?

I'm not sure what you are asking but if I understand your terms correctly then I would say that....

1. Jesus was not a divine implant.
2. He was God become a man, like you and I except without a sperm. The DNA that would have come from a human father was created by God. The inner man of Christ was God humanified. (I agree with the doctrine of the creation of the soul and disagree with the doctrine of traducianism.
3. of course Mary is his biological mother.